Hm, I guess I must be vaguely remembering him from Life On Mars, and maybe HP&TOOTP
Game of Thrones 2.4 - "Garden of Bones" - Rate and discuss
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Hm, I guess I must be vaguely remembering him from Life On Mars, and maybe HP&TOOTP
Speaking of Charles Dance's performance of Tywin, in the episode "The Pointy End" where Tyrion and his barbarians meet Tywin and Kevan, CD ad libbed the part where he moved the wine goblet out of Peter Dinklage's reach. 
I'm just glad to see Smoke Monster is still finding work these days, especially after his sitcom was cancelled.
http://www.theonion.com/articles/smoke-monster-from-lost-given-own-primetime-spinof,2734/
I wonder if that will turn anyone off at all. It's the first time, walkers perhaps aside, that the show has shifted into more pure fantasy. Well and dragons I guess...
It didn't turn me off, but it DID surprise me. I went, "right, they DO talk a lot about magic..." Because I hadn't really seen any magic until this point, I looked at it like magic in OUR world... as in, just a superstition, not a real thing.
And it's odd, we haven't seen ANY magic until Season 2... Other shows would've put that right in the center. But then, this is a grown up show.
I think it was a smart choice to wait until the right moment to really do something "fantasy."
Except, of course, for those wee little dragons and strange undead creatures with blue glowing eyes.
That's why I love how the books handle magic. It's used so sparingly that when something magical actually does happen, you're just as amazed as the characters are. Annoys me in other fantasies when magic is commonplace and there are wizards running around everywhere.
Weirdly, I don't consider those MAGIC. Undead creatures, to me, is science fiction. Zombies. Dragons are biological.
So... no, don't consider those magic. Fantasy tropes, sure. But, not magic. To me.
Dragons and White walkers could be other "races" or types of creatures, sure.
But how the Dragons were born, and that whole Drogo/Dany's child situation. Yep, magic. Not as in your face as this episode - but magic.
However, you can be assured that us readers had an equally big "WTF!?!?" reaction when we read about Melisandre gives birth. So it is certainly translated very well.
But how the Dragons were born, and that whole Drogo/Dany's child situation. Yep, magic. Not as in your face as this episode - but magic.
However, you can be assured that us readers had an equally big "WTF!?!?" reaction when we read about Melisandre gives birth. So it is certainly translated very well.
Meh. I'm still gonna say, not really. Not so much as I went WOW, magic. Just as you said, not in your face. Sure, Dany surviving the fire, I guess, magic, how the Dragon's were born... in the fire. Biological.
I don't remember the Drogo child situation? That "curse"? Seemed more like intentionally bad doctoring to me. Again, didn't seem any more magical than any "spell" nowadays.
I just started reading Game of Thrones, I look forward to that moment.
By way of blood magic, yes. Hell, Miri Mazdur even calls it blood magic.
There's no conventional way of doctoring that can make a mortally festering wound completely dissappear within the span of three days (and render the patient catatonic in the process).
Born from eggs that had been fossils for thousands of years.
Not to get argumentative--but people call themselves witches HERE, and have SPELLS. Just because they call it something, doesn't actually make it real.
I suppose. Maybe it wasn't clear in the episode for me how much time passed. I honestly don't remember it with that much detail. And, the spell took place off camera, so maybe that's why the magic didn't have much impact on me.
The biggest "magical" moment about the lamb people witch was what happened to her son. Delivered as a stillborn half-dragon monstrosity, filled with worms, looking like it had been dead for a long time. Yet the baby had apparently been fine shortly before that.
You can choose to explain that away if you want, in the TV context. But "blood magic" is certainly real in the story. And magic isn't free. There always is a price to be paid.
You can choose to explain that away if you want, in the TV context. But "blood magic" is certainly real in the story. And magic isn't free. There always is a price to be paid.
Was that in the show? I don't remember seeing that.
Um. Don't doubt NOW that magic is very real in this world. So there's no need to "explain that away" I'm just explaining to you MY experience of WATCHING the show. So sorry if interferes with your notions of how one should watch it.
No, the baby was not shown, but described.
I'm not trying to tell you how to watch it, I'm not sure why you are thinking that. Perhaps I phrased my post poorly. I appreciate hearing your views. It matches mine as I was reading the books - it took me a while to get past the "magic skeptic" phase.
I'm not trying to tell you how to watch it, I'm not sure why you are thinking that. Perhaps I phrased my post poorly. I appreciate hearing your views. It matches mine as I was reading the books - it took me a while to get past the "magic skeptic" phase.
Speaking of Charles Dance's performance of Tywin, in the episode "The Pointy End" where Tyrion and his barbarians meet Tywin and Kevan, CD ad libbed the part where he moved the wine goblet out of Peter Dinklage's reach.
I just love Charles Dance. He makes everything so compelling. I don't think I have ever seen the man give a bad performance.
The same goes for I. Glenn (Jorah).
Tyrion and Braun are a riot. I could do without a lot of the Shae (spelling?) lying around and whining, but good times are to be had when Tyrion and Braun are in the same room.
Joffre just keeps on sinking. It seems that he might be able to give the mad king a run for his money in the "most hated monarch" category.
Malisandre just annoys me. She is just too smug. I want to see her knocked down a few pegs.
I am going to start reading the books. A friend is loaning me their set this week.
In GoT it seems to me that it is almost a reversed LotR. Magic went away for a long time, and now it is creeping back. Whereas in LotR, the magic was vanshing, ushering in an age of man.
Perhaps there are magical seasons in the GoT universe. The Dragons went away for a time, along with the white walkers, and people capable of "doing" magic.
Now the dragaons have returned. The White Walkers are once again on the move, and people are finding they have capabilities only talked about in old stories.
In GoT it seems to me that it is almost a reversed LotR. Magic went away for a long time, and now it is creeping back. Whereas in LotR, the magic was vanshing, ushering in an age of man.
Perhaps there are magical seasons in the GoT universe. The Dragons went away for a time, along with the white walkers, and people capable of "doing" magic.
Now the dragaons have returned. The White Walkers are once again on the move, and people are finding they have capabilities only talked about in old stories.
Another excellent episode. Some thoughts:
- The birth of the shadow baby was awesomely creepy.
- Tywin was full of win the way he swept into Harrenhal in that great shot on horseback and immediately took charge, and Harrenhal itself was wonderfully realised on screen.
- Arya's death prayer made its first appearance. I like that she got it from Yoren (which is a change from the books).
- When reading the books I pronounced Qarth in my head the same way Dany initially did.
- Stannis correcting Davos's grammar was a hoot.
- The only scene I wasn't so crazy about was Robb meeting Oona Chaplin's character - her throwing anti-war barbs at him, which only piques his interest, felt rather trite.
- The birth of the shadow baby was awesomely creepy.
- Tywin was full of win the way he swept into Harrenhal in that great shot on horseback and immediately took charge, and Harrenhal itself was wonderfully realised on screen.
- Arya's death prayer made its first appearance. I like that she got it from Yoren (which is a change from the books).
- When reading the books I pronounced Qarth in my head the same way Dany initially did.
- Stannis correcting Davos's grammar was a hoot.
- The only scene I wasn't so crazy about was Robb meeting Oona Chaplin's character - her throwing anti-war barbs at him, which only piques his interest, felt rather trite.