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Game of Thrones 1.10 - "Fire and Blood" - Rate and discuss

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Edit to add: It seems I totally blanked on the fact that we actually did see Cersei's initial reaction to learning that in the scene with Lancel. That reaction was way too muted!
Probably because she was with Lancel. Cersei is very good at keeping her emotions in check and not giving anything away; if she'd been alone when she learned about Jaime, I suspect her reaction would have been very different.
 
As a reader of the books I have to side with IndyJones. I loved the twists and turns of the book and don't want anyone spoiled on that because they deserve to experience that, too. We can make seperate threads or use spoiler code.
 
Not really arguing AGAINST any of that, and people should be doing that. "Look, we just saw all 3 Mormonts" is not a twist or turn, though, and barely an observation of what we've already seen, though. If you get upset at that level of "spoiler" (and again, is a spoiler that spoils nothing actually a spoiler?), it's risky to participate in these threads, or any online discussion, really. People aren't doing things on purpose, but accidents happen. Coming in here, knowing that, and then getting mad when accidents DO happen is on you, IMO.
 
As someone who is just now going through the first book so I'm no further ahead than anyone just watching the show, I'm with Scout101, that Mormont comment spoiled nothing.
 
Dany started and ended the season naked: the first occasion emphasised her vulnerability and lack of power, while the last was a show of strength and power.
 
I've just started the first book, and my usual defense is to skim posts and hope for the best lol... :D
 
I haven't read the books and last week my jaw nearly dropped when Ned was executed. I had to come on to the 1.09 thread to see if he really did bite the big one - I was sure there'd be some last-minute reprieve. Well, the opening shot of this episode - bloody sword, hushed crowd, dangling head - made clear to all those who didn't have the benefit of the BBS that there'd be no Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves type rescue!

Having sort of half-watched the first few episodes, this show really, really grew on me after the last few and I'm delighted that it's been renewed (delighted also that S2 will also be shot in Belfast). I don't think I'll check out the books, but it will be a long wait for the next season and probably worth every minute.
 
I'm glad that so many TV only viewers managed to remain unspoiled about Ned's death. When the show first started I thought that spoiler would get out to the extent that it would be difficult for any prolific Internet surfer to avoid. I did see some instances of people thoughtlessly spoiling the fact that Sean Bean would only be in the first season, but it seems it was rare enough that most TV only viewers managed to avoid it.
 
Not really arguing AGAINST any of that, and people should be doing that. "Look, we just saw all 3 Mormonts" is not a twist or turn, though, and barely an observation of what we've already seen, though. If you get upset at that level of "spoiler" (and again, is a spoiler that spoils nothing actually a spoiler?), it's risky to participate in these threads, or any online discussion, really.

I don't know if there's another way for me to say this....

How should a a guy who doesn't know what's about to happen know what's important and what's not when he reads it here?

I know that significant things have been spoiled these past few weeks, and I saw what I thought was a spoiler and I mentioned it. Obviously that was a bad choice for me to speak up on, but it happened to pop up on a night when I'd had a few beers and felt punchy. ;) I mentioned it to try to avoid the type of atmospherre that you don't seem to mind here. And I'd have forgotten about it by now if it hadn't been for your dismissive attitude, and for what I thought that meant for viewers next season who wanted to discuss the show free from spoilers (Which they SHOULD be able to do here, and I don't think your argument that the rights of posters to discuss future events in this thread rather than in the spoiler thread should trump the rights of wierers who want to discuss *a TV show* without being spoiled holds water).

The only spoiler I spoke up on before this was when someone talked about Castle Black next season, and I don't recall that poster then acknowledging that his post did contain a spoiler.
And it was becuase of that situation going mostly unresolved that I felt it was worth mentioning again.

And as for it not being important that there won't (or maybe there will be?) more Mormonts; why did George R.R. Martin choose to make these guys on oposite sides of this world family members? And why did people think it was neat to reveal that there was a Targaryean at The Wall? Shutting off speculation about what might happen or who might show up IS spoiling. Revealing info that I wouldn't be able to know until later IS spoiling. And the more common it gets to have those small details dropped the more likely it is to get bigger details divulged here.

And you've never addressed why it is that people should be able to post book spoilers in these threads rather than confining them to the spoiler thread? Why is it that the hundreds of posts on Alan Sepinwall's blog every week manage to avoid spoilers but in 50 posts here a week we can't?
 
And as for it not being important that there won't (or maybe there will be?) more Mormonts; why did George R.R. Martin choose to make these guys on oposite sides of this world family members?

Well, has has been observed in earlier threads, the Mormonts are from the North, their family are bannermen to the Starks. This explains well enough why Maege Mormont is in Robb's host, and it's not surprising to find Northerners among those in the Night's Watch (though as we've seen they come from all over).

So the question there is: Why is Jorah on the other end of the world?
 
IndyJones I feel like your reaction (or overreaction) to the statement is more of a spoiler than the statement itself. I never read that sentence and thought "Wow, only three Mormounts exist in this entire world and this person just spoiled me on it!". Reading it I took it as more like "oh, it's cool that all three Mormounts that we've heard about are all in the same episode."
 
So the question there is: Why is Jorah on the other end of the world?

See, it's random little questions like this that get people in trouble in this thread. We know the answer to this, and it's not really a big deal, but have no idea which book the conversation that describes his backstory came from. Did it already happen, or is it yet to come? Know the entire story comes later, but reasonably sure that the short version comes out when we first meet him.

Forces people to either skip any real discussion, or take a chance on faulty memory and risk answering the question, forcing them to then spend a dozen posts answering to the Spoiler Inquisition if they guess wrong...
 
I know that significant things have been spoiled these past few weeks.
What significant things have been spoiled in the last few weeks? I can't say I can think of any. Be sure to use spoiler code if you think they're things beyond the first season since we wouldn't want to compound the issue by shining the light on any spoilers once again.
 
I have a few questions.

1) Are there also gates at the other castles along the wall?
2) Is the gate at castle black original or did the Night's Watch sit behind the wall for centuries and dig the tunnel later on because of the Wildling incursions?
3) How do Wildlings and people like Will get over the Wall?
4) When there is Winter, is it also cold in places like Dorne and King's Landing?

Thanks in advance
 
And as for it not being important that there won't (or maybe there will be?) more Mormonts; why did George R.R. Martin choose to make these guys on oposite sides of this world family members?

Well, has has been observed in earlier threads, the Mormonts are from the North, their family are bannermen to the Starks. This explains well enough why Maege Mormont is in Robb's host, and it's not surprising to find Northerners among those in the Night's Watch (though as we've seen they come from all over).

So the question there is: Why is Jorah on the other end of the world?

It was explained earlier in the show that he had to flee Westeros because of Ned Stark. Jorah caught some poachers and sold them off as slaves, a big no-no. Ned pursued him and Jorah ran to another continent to escape jurisdiction.
 
There was a reason for why Jorah sold those poachers as slaves, but I don't recall if it was mentioned on-screen.
 
if you watch Game of Thrones backwards it's about a wonderful child who gives people their heads back.

:devil:
 
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