Galileo 7 TOS-R...simply glorious...

[Noname Given]

pookha said:

Lieut. Arex said:

cbspock said:
I thought the only time Columbus returned was when the Enterprise had to leave?

No, in the TOS-R version, they show the shuttle returning and Kirk sending it right back out with instructions to widen their passes by two degrees. Sulu comments, saying they'd miss covering a dozen miles a circuit, but Kirk sticks to the choice as it "gives us a fighting chance to search most of the surface". At the end of the episode, Kirk tells Farris Columbus has to be recovered before he can break off the search.

well it could be something as simple as continued out side the ship exposure to the quasar effect messes up the sensors of the shuttle to the point they need to go back to the ship to have them checked every once in awhile.

Actually, I watched the episode one more time, and the dialogue with the Columbus returning (and being shown as returning on screen in the TOS-R version) WAS in fact correct. Right of wrong scientifically, all through the episode NOTHING is working, including regular and subspace radio. At the point where they show the Columbus returning and Kirk giving the updated search order; Uhura STILL has no radio, thus the only way to communicate with the Culumbus was to have it re-dock and relay its report via intercom and receive updated orders.

At the point where Uhura states "I'm in partial contact with them now..." (refering to the Columbus); it's nearly a day later' and Kirk has been ordered to abandon the search.

 

[Brutal Strudel]

RAMA said:

UnknownSample said:

The God Thing said:
Whew! After almost two hours of intense Googling I have finally discovered what was bugging me about these new CG effects shots. The Galileo Seven was originally aired in 1967, two years before the black hole and accretion disk model of quasars (and, for that matter, galactic microquasars which would account for Murasaki 312) was proposed (PDF) by Dr. Donald Lynden-Bell in his Nature paper of 1969. Although it won't effect 99.9% of the potential viewership, this blatant scientific anachronism makes me feel even queasier than usual regarding TOS-R.

TGT

Actually, the only response necessary is: it's set in the future. I know everyone knows that, but that's really the only rebuttal needed. They know far more about quasars in the 23rd century than we do now. Improving the science is actually the only thing I DON'T mind about the new versions.

Of course that all makes sense...but file TGT's opinion under "arbitrary bias" against TOS-R. I think it won't make any difference.

RAMA

1967's future, not 2007's. As such, TOS is a snapshot of the past far more than it is a vision of the future. Some of us don't want to see our daugerrotypes airbrushed. It requires a bit of subtle thinking to grasp this so I'll just say "that's right, totally arbitrary ( )" and back away slowly.

 

[Newtype_A]

Guartho said:
Of course, since they're doing this in fan-favorite order we should have some really great effects on Spock's Brain.

Brain and brain! What is brain?!

 

[Newtype_A]

UnknownSample said:
Dramatic impact is what matters. A starker, emptier look is consistent with the mood and tone of the episode which, surprise, the episode as originally made already had.

I assume you must be talking about the ground scenes, not the starship exteriors, which (if I remember correctly) are the same recycled stock footage used in just about every other Trekisode from the entire season. Really: how much attention can you pay to "mood and tone" when you use the same six-second clip for every scene?

 

[USS Mariner]

Brutal Strudel said:
1967's future, not 2007's. As such, TOS is a snapshot of the past far more than it is a vision of the future. Some of us don't want to see our daugerrotypes airbrushed. It requires a bit of subtle thinking to grasp this so I'll just say "that's right, totally arbitrary ( )" and back away slowly.

[HEAD EXPLODES IN TRADITIONAL VERHOEVEN STYLE]

 

[Forbin]

 

[Brutal Strudel]

If TGT and I are Kirk and Mudd and Norman is a TOS-R moonie, all I can say is "if only, if only..."

 

[Zod]

I watched this last night and I must say it was very impressive. I love these new effects.

 

[Joker]

Mariner Class said:

Brutal Strudel said:
1967's future, not 2007's. As such, TOS is a snapshot of the past far more than it is a vision of the future. Some of us don't want to see our daugerrotypes airbrushed. It requires a bit of subtle thinking to grasp this so I'll just say "that's right, totally arbitrary ( )" and back away slowly.

[HEAD EXPLODES IN TRADITIONAL VERHOEVEN STYLE]

 

[Brutal Strudel]

But shouldn't the head blow up in Cronenberg style? He was the guy who gave us Scanners, after all.

Speaking of Cronenberg, Eastern Promises is a movie worth seeing. Just thought I'd say it...

 

[Doug Otte]

Doug Otte said:

DS9Sega said:

Doug Otte said:

DS9Sega said:
The fog overlay could have been to hide some shot-ruining error they were trying to cover...cables, the end of the set, etc.

No, it's been documented (Inside Trek, I think...can anybody back me up?) that it was either Desilu or more likely NBC that wanted the gore toned down. They specifically asked that the impaled guy not be shown.

Doug

I don't recall that. If someone can cite a book and page I'd be interested to read it.

Sorry to be so vague. I'll check at home tonight. I have Making of ST and World of, but Inside Trek I borrowed from the library a few years ago and never got around to buying...but I just ran over to Amazon and ordered a copy.

I'll post back after checking my books at home tonight, but I suspect I'll have to wait until Inside Trek arrives.

Doug

I looked in all my books, including Inside Star Trek that I just received, and could not find anything. I either imagined it, or read a post on this board speculating about it. In any case, I apologize for the misinformation.

By the way, if you don't have Inside Star Trek, get it immediately. It's from the point of view of Solow and Justman, and has a lot good details and stories that sometimes (not always) contradict established lore. And, it has a huge collection of photos I've never seen anywhere else.

Doug

 

[Maurice]

^^^Thanks for clarifying. That's why I always pull out the book and cite the source...too easy for heresay to become pseudo "fact" on the internet!

 

[RobertScorpio]

that's what I meant, back in the 60's it was censored. To me it looks like a very obvious effect that serves no purpose other than to hide the body

I totally agree...someone must have a 'story' out there about this. And its always been there..

Rob

 

[ST-One]

Ignoring the fact that this shot looks not good at all... (the lighting! The lighting!)... the clamshell doors would never work the way they are shown here; they seem in now way attached to anything and would close in front of this observation window.
Then there is that gap between the pylon and the hull...

Oh, and... did no-one tell these people that you never, ever put your key-light behind the camera (unless it serves a purpose)? The lighting! The lighting!

 

[cooleddie74]

KIRK:"See, Harry?

Told you.

Radio Shack parts."

 

[James Bond]

KIRK: RobertScorpio must have bumped a nearly year old thread on the internets again.

 

[cooleddie74]

KIRK: "Poor devil.

He read a Baba thread."