Galileo 7 TOS-R...simply glorious...

[RAMA]

Brutal Strudel said:
Fair enough. All I'm asking is that those of us with dissenting views (if that, even) not be shouted down as "trashing" or "inane."

The only problem occurs when certain people (the very same ones who called death threats to Leonard Nimoy before STII came out when they heard he wanted Spock killed off; or think TOS is a sacred, holy series; or write off all other ST series written, produced and directed by numerous creators with different visions) can't look at the show with perspective. I'm fine with anyone who doesn't like TOS-R, but the ones determined to hate it before it even aired are easy to spot, and really shouldn't be fans of a show that espouses logical thinking and open mindedness.

RAMA

 

[Jack Bauer]

The effects team did a fantastic job on this episode. The effects are gorgeous.

 

[Mallory]

I couldn't agree with you more. The only thing I was disappointed in was the "shuttle burning up on re-entry" scene. That one looked a little off to me.

 

[Ronald Held]

IMO, the remastered style does not always fit in with what was done origonally, even if some of it looks better than the original.

 

[SPOCKED]

The midnight airing didn't occur until closer to 1am

But it was worth the wait. This effort really helped the story along, I thought. TG7 is not just one of my favorite TOSs but now a particularly favorite remaster.

 

[Brutal Strudel]

RAMA said:

Brutal Strudel said:
Fair enough. All I'm asking is that those of us with dissenting views (if that, even) not be shouted down as "trashing" or "inane."

The only problem occurs when certain people (the very same ones who called death threats to Leonard Nimoy before STII came out when they heard he wanted Spock killed off; or think TOS is a sacred, holy series; or write off all other ST series written, produced and directed by numerous creators with different visions) can't look at the show with perspective. I'm fine with anyone who doesn't like TOS-R, but the ones determined to hate it before it even aired are easy to spot, and really shouldn't be fans of a show that espouses logical thinking and open mindedness.

RAMA

I don't know why I bother.

 

[Kelso]

Well, what I saw was fun... unfortunately, WSB-Atlanta cut off the first half of the episode again. What a bunch of jack-asses.

 

[RAMA]

For the first time the episode was not aired here, no idea why. I emailed the station.

RAMA

 

[Noname Given]

The effects were micely redone here (except for the error where you can see the Columbus behid the Gallelio as it launces; yet when they switch the viewing perspective of the Gallelio leaving - the Columbus is suddenly gone ).

But in watching it - a couple of writing gaffs/inconcistencies still cause me to chuckle:

1) WHY does the Columus need to re-dock and re-launch after completing each search leg? - as is made obvious in the dialog and the new effects. If you go by later episodes like Metamorphysis these are long range warp-capabe shuttlecraft.

2) We keep hearing "it's four days to Marcus..."; and that is the 'time pressure' plot device of the episode; YET after the Shuttlecraft crew are retrived - Kirk orders that they proceed to Marcus at the blistering speed of Warp factor 1

All that said; this is still one of my favorite Star Trek episodes; and overall the TOS-R SFX crew did a nice job.

 

[Professor Moriarty]

Noname Given said:YET after the Shuttlecraft crew are retrived - Kirk orders that they proceed to Marcus at the blistering speed of Warp factor 1

Maybe the Enterprise can't safely travel any faster than that in the vicinity of a quasar-like phenomenon like Murasaki. Maybe Kirk wanted to stick it to Ferris and drag his feet some more. Maybe __________ (insert your own 'splanation).

 

[Lieut. Arex]

Noname Given said:
The effects were micely redone here (except for the error where you can see the Columbus behid the Gallelio as it launces; yet when they switch the viewing perspective of the Gallelio leaving - the Columbus is suddenly gone ).

That was cheesy, wasn't it?

1) WHY does the Columus need to re-dock and re-launch after completing each search leg? - as is made obvious in the dialog and the new effects. If you go by later episodes like Metamorphysis these are long range warp-capabe shuttlecraft.

I think they took the dialogue too literally. Never before watching this show did I think Columbus physically returned to the Enterrprise as was shown. It makes more sense to me that the shuttle was searching the farside of the planet and popped over the horizon to report their progress.

2) We keep hearing "it's four days to Marcus..."; and that is the 'time pressure' plot device of the episode; YET after the Shuttlecraft crew are retrived - Kirk orders that they proceed to Marcus at the blistering speed of Warp factor 1

Practically every episode where the Enterprise leaves a planet, they do so at Warp 1.

 

[cbspock]

I thought the only time Columbus returned was when the Enterprise had to leave?

 

[Kolrad]

I always wish they had added a line after Kirk hears that five (I think it's five) people were beamed aboard from the shuttle where someone tells Kirk that the other two men died on the planet. For all Kirk knows, they could still be alive down there (and it could be Spock and McCoy, for that matter), but he just gives the order to warp away.

 

[Lieut. Arex]

cbspock said:
I thought the only time Columbus returned was when the Enterprise had to leave?

No, in the TOS-R version, they show the shuttle returning and Kirk sending it right back out with instructions to widen their passes by two degrees. Sulu comments, saying they'd miss covering a dozen miles a circuit, but Kirk sticks to the choice as it "gives us a fighting chance to search most of the surface". At the end of the episode, Kirk tells Farris Columbus has to be recovered before he can break off the search.

 

[cbspock]

Lieut. Arex said:

cbspock said:
I thought the only time Columbus returned was when the Enterprise had to leave?

No, in the TOS-R version, they show the shuttle returning and Kirk sending it right back out with instructions to widen their passes by two degrees. Sulu comments, saying they'd miss covering a dozen miles a circuit, but Kirk sticks to the choice as it "gives us a fighting chance to search most of the surface". At the end of the episode, Kirk tells Farris Columbus has to be recovered before he can break off the search.

I assumed they communicated with the shuttle while it was still searching. There was never an effects shot in the original when Kirk said those lines.

 

[Garibaldi O'brien]

Brutal Strudel said:

RAMA said:

Brutal Strudel said:
Fair enough. All I'm asking is that those of us with dissenting views (if that, even) not be shouted down as "trashing" or "inane."

The only problem occurs when certain people (the very same ones who called death threats to Leonard Nimoy before STII came out when they heard he wanted Spock killed off; or think TOS is a sacred, holy series; or write off all other ST series written, produced and directed by numerous creators with different visions) can't look at the show with perspective. I'm fine with anyone who doesn't like TOS-R, but the ones determined to hate it before it even aired are easy to spot, and really shouldn't be fans of a show that espouses logical thinking and open mindedness.

RAMA

I don't know why I bother.

Keep hope alive.

/We all need our pain.

 

[UnknownSample]

The effects are hasty and cheap compared to what the Next Gen-Voyager-Ent team could have done. The distorted ship proportions make it look amateurish.

Dramatic impact is what matters. A starker, emptier look is consistent with the mood and tone of the episode which, surprise, the episode as originally made already had. Seeing more "stuff" isn't necessarily an improvement, especially if you value drama over effects.

 

[johnwarfn]

Take another look at the scene were the first crewman gets the spear in the back. He falls down the cliff and the camera pans down. Suddenly there's a very obvious shift in the picture. The entire image lifts up vertically and there's some very fake fog superimposed over the dead body. I can only assume the image of a guy with a huge spear in his back was censored. I wonder if anyone has a still of this image before it was 'fogged-out'.

 

[Mallory]

Looking at the original at TrekCore, it doesn't appear to have been added as an effect for this episode. It may have been enhanced though.

My memory says that the fog was there when the episode originally aired. I could be wrong, but I don't think I am in this case.

 

[johnwarfn]

that's what I meant, back in the 60's it was censored. To me it looks like a very obvious effect that serves no purpose other than to hide the body