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Galileo 7 TOS-R...simply glorious...

RAMA said:
The God Thing said:
Professor Moriarty said:
I still think the aft control rooms look like they're melting.

Is that because CBS Digital fucked up the actual shuttlebay model or did they render it with the wrong virtual lens? :confused:

TGT

From what I understand, the original model of the shuttlebay in the orignal series didn't have the right perspective to begin with and was corrected in the CGI version.

RAMA

Perhaps not right as in realistic, but effective none-the-less.
 
Ass-backwards thinking, if true. When fx vendors created a cg e-e for INS, they made sure to include the tiny flaws in the ILM miniature structure to keep it from looking too CG like. Now they 'enhance' TOS by taking the opposite approach. Sounds a lil' wonky.

Oh, I don't know. The deal with the shuttlebay was that the TOS people did it wrong originally: they created forced perspective that didn't quite play out as intended, and the result was a shuttlebay that didn't fit inside the exterior of the ship. The CGI redimensioning takes care of that original mistake, for the most part. (It also matches the miniature with the partial sets, to a degree.)

Toying with camera and virtual-camera lens properties and the like is a bit different, and done for slightly different reasons.

Timo Saloniemi
 
We are trying to create a fantasy world here, right?

A occasional nip and tuck is OK. Wholesale changes that ruin that fantasy are not.
 
Colonel Worf said:
Awesome shot of the quasar.

My thoughts exactly.

The image is so clear and realistic it looks as though it could be part of a Nasa photo book.

I know theyre not going for, as we say, 'photo-realistic' CGI like with latter movies and Enterprise but there are some kick ass TOS Style effects (Yet not so TOS style effects) coming out of CBS.

By that i mean they are remastering it to update the dated effects and also replace the collosal use of stock footage from the show. Also, it fits better into modern sci-fi with all this swish cgi effects, the other day a blogger on myspace was saying his six year old hated TOS, then without telling his son, he showed him a remastered ep and he loved it, just because the effects were kick-ass.

The aim of CBS Digital, as far as i know, is to update the effects but at the same time pay homage to the original filming angles, lighting, camera moves etc etc. I think they are doing a fantastic job with this almost impossible task (The fans making it hard to please), cant fault them, apart from a few things that shouldve been left alone and just updated.

Apart from that, Keep it going, CBS.
 
I don't think it has been determined yet that the actual set was built as a forced perspective miniature. It has been proven that the drawings of the hangar in TMOST have forced perspective features.

It is entirely possible that the set intended to incorporate forced perspective, but was built without it -- giving us something that truly can't be said to fit inside the ship.

I think on the whole that the CGI hangar is a decent compromise -- but the droopy control booths are wholly uncalled for. I also wish they'd get a clue about how to realistically light and render CGI models. I'm tired of otherwise excellent models looking like flat video game renders.

M.
 
...Forgive my stupidity here but was the Ent's impulse engine flare ever lit in the original series? I don't think so but I'm curious.
 
MGagen said:
I also wish they'd get a clue about how to realistically light and render CGI models. I'm tired of otherwise excellent models looking like flat video game renders.
+1000

The flat lighting and unrealistic shadows do more harm to that shuttlebay model than the "melting control booths".
 
ancient said:
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So, have they got the Columbus up on jacks there? Look how much higher than the Galileo it is in the first shot!

Maybe they're pimpin' it up with some awesome spinnaz and underbody neon.
 
payndz201 said:
So, have they got the Columbus up on jacks there? Look how much higher than the Galileo it is in the first shot!

Ummm... did you ever study perspective in art class? It's not higher up, it's closer to the camera.
 
Christopher said:
payndz201 said:
So, have they got the Columbus up on jacks there? Look how much higher than the Galileo it is in the first shot!

Ummm... did you ever study perspective in art class? It's not higher up, it's closer to the camera.
Actually, yes I did. And don't think I won't take a challenge to my knowledge of the rules of perspective lying down! :klingon:

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If it were on the same level as the Galileo, it wouldn't matter how close to the camera it was, you'd still be able to see its roof from that camera angle.
 
^^^ But don't forget, the roofline of the shuttlecraft sloped DOWN towards the back, as seen in Dippity-Day (above), but the tops of the outside panels (as per payndz201's example) were more level.
 
This is a cool shot too..but I think I spotted a goof...where's the Columbus?..we should be able to see it at this angle in the Bay..

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