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Galactica 1980

I never knew the original Galactica bridge was such a major expense, but it makes sense. It was pretty impressive at the time, with all those displays. It was so big I was never too clear on where the vertical plot/map section was in relation to the rest of it.

Thought it was at the back of the bridge behind Omega's station and that looks to be the case.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-NbPRRsIbFLs/UrG5ICqLNzI/AAAAAAAAlw0/QAnn3dZWOoc/s1600/controlroom1978b.png

This link pic shows the original BSG bridge. Below in front of Commander Adama we can see two crew members at the helm and navigator controls. I was always surprised that there was never known cast members in those positions like Sulu and Chekov on the 1701 in TOS. :sigh:
 
Which is as good a place as any to bring up something that bugged me since I was a kid: Why do three robot Cylons have to get into a Raider and fly it? Why not just make the ship a robot itself?

Well, according to the pilot, the robotic Cylons had an origin not too dissimilar from their namesakes in the reboot series and Caprica: They were created as servants by an organic, reptilian race, the original Cylons, and then revolted and exterminated them. So maybe they just adopted the Cylon reptiles' ships and technology along with their name.
 
I never knew the original Galactica bridge was such a major expense, but it makes sense. It was pretty impressive at the time, with all those displays. It was so big I was never too clear on where the vertical plot/map section was in relation to the rest of it.

Thought it was at the back of the bridge behind Omega's station and that looks to be the case.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-NbPRRsIbFLs/UrG5ICqLNzI/AAAAAAAAlw0/QAnn3dZWOoc/s1600/controlroom1978b.png

Isn't that the front viewscreen? (Omega's console can rotate, I'm fairly sure of that.)
 
Which is as good a place as any to bring up something that bugged me since I was a kid: Why do three robot Cylons have to get into a Raider and fly it? Why not just make the ship a robot itself?
If you want to be the one in control, you're better off being the pilot yourself.

I'm a BSG fan, yet I've never seen the original series or Galactica 1980. I bought both shows on DVD in 2012, so I'll have to set aside some time. I also have the graphic novel but haven't gotten to that either.
 
Which is as good a place as any to bring up something that bugged me since I was a kid: Why do three robot Cylons have to get into a Raider and fly it? Why not just make the ship a robot itself?
If you want to be the one in control, you're better off being the pilot yourself.

I don't think you're getting the point. If they're sentient robots, why not just have the ship be sentient, with nobody aboard it at all? Instead of having a machine that thinks piloting a machine that flies, combine them into a single machine that both thinks and flies. As stated, that's how the reboot did it.
 
^ Actually, I was saying that I don't see a problem with a cylon centurion flying a raider.

What if you're a centurion and want to go out and do some flying yourself? You'll need a plane, a jet pack or the ability to upload yourself into a body that flies. It's not always desirable to "send out the dogs".

And on a side note, what if a raider doesn't want to be nothing but a raider? At least Moore solved that problem by making them akin to pets.
 
Which is as good a place as any to bring up something that bugged me since I was a kid: Why do three robot Cylons have to get into a Raider and fly it? Why not just make the ship a robot itself?
If you want to be the one in control, you're better off being the pilot yourself.

I don't think you're getting the point. If they're sentient robots, why not just have the ship be sentient, with nobody aboard it at all? Instead of having a machine that thinks piloting a machine that flies, combine them into a single machine that both thinks and flies. As stated, that's how the reboot did it.

While that is a good point, we've also seen Cylon foot soldiers and with no drop ships or shuttle how do they get around? At least with the three Cylon pilots they also have the ability to transport their troops. It's also something of a holdover I think from the idea of the Cylons being living beings.
 
Which is as good a place as any to bring up something that bugged me since I was a kid: Why do three robot Cylons have to get into a Raider and fly it? Why not just make the ship a robot itself?
If you want to be the one in control, you're better off being the pilot yourself.

I don't think you're getting the point. If they're sentient robots, why not just have the ship be sentient, with nobody aboard it at all? Instead of having a machine that thinks piloting a machine that flies, combine them into a single machine that both thinks and flies. As stated, that's how the reboot did it.

I think that would be a terrible life though. Go on patrol, come back and sit in the hangar waiting for the next patrol.
 
Classic Cylons were "People".

Assholes and single minded, but it was nothing about inhuman cold machine logic.

They all had personalities and drives and individuality (from the 4 or 5 that we met.).

Centurians are thugs, but the citizen class like Lucifer were full of foibles.

They just happened to be people made of microchips and plastic.

After hearing that the Three pilots "vote" on all their actions, I yearned for a running commentary from a few of those raider cock pits as we established that the centurion always getting the sharp end of the minority reports starts getting really bitchy.
 
I was always surprised that there was never known cast members in those positions like Sulu and Chekov on the 1701 in TOS. :sigh:

Maybe they spent so much money on the bridge set they couldn't afford more speaking parts to work on it. ;)

Well, according to the pilot, the robotic Cylons had an origin not too dissimilar from their namesakes in the reboot series and Caprica: They were created as servants by an organic, reptilian race, the original Cylons, and then revolted and exterminated them. So maybe they just adopted the Cylon reptiles' ships and technology along with their name.

Yeah, could be. It seems like an obvious way to simplify things, though, if the robots are manufacturing their own ships.

Isn't that the front viewscreen? (Omega's console can rotate, I'm fairly sure of that.)

Hmm, that rings a bell. Did the whole command "pedestal" thing rotate?

What if you're a centurion and want to go out and do some flying yourself?

I think that would be a terrible life though. Go on patrol, come back and sit in the hangar waiting for the next patrol.

Why would a Cylon machine "want to" do anything? Or care about its life? I thought they just carried out their programmed function and that's it.
 
Don't worry about it. I can see that maybe I wasn't as clear as I could have been.

Why would a Cylon machine "want to" do anything? Or care about its life? I thought they just carried out their programmed function and that's it.
Not having seen the show, I don't know what kind of sentience they have. If they have a hive mind or some form of programming, then having some of the models function strictly as raiders makes sense but if they have a level of individuality similar to humans then I can see them leaning towards being more hands-on.
 
Just wow.

I just finished rewatching the original Battlestar Galactica and really enjoyed the series. So I figured I'd go ahead and watch the seven episodes of Galactica 1980. :scream:

Just frustratingly bad, bad, bad. I'm on the second episode and am simply ready to jump to "The Return of Starbuck" and be done with this pitiful affair.

Just watch "The Return of Starbuck" and trash the rest (it has some funny moments, and is probably the only semi-watchable episode.)
 
In the pilot, they approach the scientific community (Daddy Brady) to see if Earth is open to beginning a relationship with their space brothers... In the final episode, they send down their farmers in denim and cowboy hats to start farms on Earth (to feed the fleet?).

Forgive me but lets just assume that these Galacticans can grow 40 times as much food at a tenth the cost in (if the episode is to be believed) a hundredth the time.

Wouldn't something like that handled poorly destroy the planets economy?

The US Government would actually march down to these space farmers new plantations and try to pay them not to grow food, to save all the regular preforming farms from being outwitted and outmatched.

Anything the Galactians did to uplift the Earthlings in secret would destabilize the planet and probably start World War III.
 
I don' tthink there was really any footage they could use from the bridge that would count as "stock" - not even Rigel doing her viper launch bit.

Plus given there was probably nothing left of it after the sets were struck when the first series was cancelled, they wouldn't have been keen to rebuild it or pay the actor/extras to fill it.

Plus as the aim was to keep the costs down by having most of the action taking place on Earth, the bridge was probably not really needed.

Who would have thought location filming would be cheaper than filming on a studio set. ;)

yeah.

According to the info found at http://www.kobol.com/archives/BG-FAQ.html

The bridge set cost $US850,000 (today that equates to $US3.1 and used $US3mil worth of donated Tektronix equipment.

The pilot chewed $7mil and production costs were about $750,000 per ep.

So location shooting for 1980 was probably cheaper.

Every time I see the BSG TOS bridge I can't help but think "it's only been 9 years since Star Trek- wow!"
 
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