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Future of Paramount+ among merger talks

Super hard to say. I haven’t had Netflix since 2017 because I don’t want to get invested in stuff that’ll get canned almost instantly (Paramount+, AppleTV+, and Crunchyroll have been more than enough to keep me happy). I think it’s easy for me to gut-react to Holland’s career history and worry, but she’s entering a totally different environment, with an IP-strengthening mandate from Ellison. And it’s not like she made every decision at Netflix by any stretch, anyway.

At the moment, I don’t think we can really say anything besides:

  • It’s good that Ellison and Kurtzman are supposedly close. Well, “good” if you like Kurtzman Trek. I know some don’t. Trust me, I hear you. You don’t have to remind me.
  • Paramount will no longer be bleeding a slow death. That’s inherently good for anything under its umbrella. Even in a bad scenario where TV Trek hits a hiatus, it’s not like it was going to last much longer in general if no one was around to pay the bills. This, at least, ensures it will exist in some capacity.
Elolison will probably want to make more movies again. Hopefully the TV stuff will continue. If anything it's a positive an actual Trekkie is in charge!
 
I can't see a former Netflix executive jonesing to redo TOS. :shifty:

I dunno, I mean, my guess is she’ll push for whatever sounds like it’ll make the most money. If it’s determined that Star Trek on television still has a place as part of that endeavour, and she hears a pitch that basically says, “It’ll be like the first one”? A lot of non-fans out there, if they’re in the biz, I can see them being like, “Oh, okay. People liked that. I don’t know who any of these newer characters are, anyway.”

Besides… as Akiva Goldsman has enjoyed telling reporters, they’ll still have the sets!

Elolison will probably want to make more movies again. Hopefully the TV stuff will continue. If anything it's a positive an actual Trekkie is in charge!

It does seem likely that Skydance’s directive will stand a stronger shot of getting Star Trek’s movie side in order, for sure. Given the history, there. But - perhaps more importantly! - Skydance leadership has over the past year outright stated that shoring up their strong IPs, promoting synergy wherever possible, is something that they’re interested in pursuing.

The most recent TrekMovie.com article talks a bit about it toward the bottom, when Anthony Pascale dives into some personal analysis on the matter.
 
I dunno, I mean, my guess is she’ll push for whatever sounds like it’ll make the most money. If it’s determined that Star Trek on television still has a place as part of that endeavour, and she hears a pitch that basically says, “It’ll be like the first one”? A lot of non-fans out there, I could see them just being like, “Oh, okay. People liked that. I don’t know who any of these newer characters are, anyway.”

Besides… as Akita Goldsman has enjoyed telling reporters, they’ll still have the sets!

There's the little matter of the Kelvin films. :whistle:

What would a streaming reboot of TOS accomplish that the Kelvin films did not?

They might do some streaming movies. A full-blown TOS series reboot? Probably not (it would run slam-bang into TOS continuity).
 
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:lol::lol:There's the little matter of the Kelvin films. :whistle:

What would a streaming reboot of TOS accomplish that the Kelvin films did not?

They might do some streaming movies. A full-blown TOS series reboot? Probably not.

The Kelvin films are (somehow) kind of long-in-the-tooth now, so I don’t really know whether they’ll push for more of that. But I get what you mean, I think. Those certainly exist, and are instantly recognizable. And Skydance-linked, for the second and third entries!

I just don’t know that we can look at a former Netflix executive, without the capability to really get into her headspace, and say that something like a SNW continuation show would have markedly less chance if pitched to her two years from now than it would if pitched to Chris McCarthy today. Especially when neither Holland then, nor McCarthy right now, is more than one piece of the puzzle.

I say all this eager for the prospect of more from Strange New Worlds’ stellar cast… but I’d rather have a Seven of Nine show, anyway. :lol:
 
The Kelvin films are (somehow) kind of long-in-the-tooth now, so I don’t really know whether they’ll push for more of that. But I get what you mean, I think. Those certainly exist, and are instantly recognizable. And Skydance-linked, for the second and third entries!

SNW was relatively new. They had something new to bring to the table (it gave backstories to Pike and Number One).

Goldman has said that SNW was not going to end with the full TOS cast being aboard Enterprise.

They might do a streaming movie (if they REALLY wanted to do an OS tech update). A full series? Probably not.
 
SNW was relatively new. They had something new to bring to the table (it gave backstories to Pike and Number One).

Goldman has said that SNW was not going to end with the full TOS cast being aboard Enterprise.

They might do a streaming movie (if they REALLY wanted to do an OS tech update). A full series? Probably not.

For the record, I am quite skeptical that a full-blown sequel show ever comes to pass! Goldsman amping up the crowd a bit while Strange New Worlds is in the middle of its run is probably a savvy financial play because he can point to fan enthusiasm if/when he actually pitches this proposal to the new leadership.

Doesn’t mean I reckon there’s much chance it gets the greenlight! Just, you know, never say never.
 
A Paul Wesley-Kirk streaming movie might be the shiny object needed to get Trump off P+'s back ("We haven't forgotten the white male demographic!")
 
I saw a post on Instagram from TrekCentral that reads, "Season Four is a wrap. Season five begins filming later this year.'
Whatever pressure Paramount/Skydance might have on SNW is going to be pretty limited if Season five's scripts are already in development.
 
Money's still the thing that talks loudest. Skydance is going to want value added assets to their media production.
 
I saw a post on Instagram from TrekCentral that reads, "Season Four is a wrap. Season five begins filming later this year.’

Which adds fuel to my hypothesis that they’re going to show S4 and S5 back to back and end the show in 2026.
 
Which adds fuel to my hypothesis that they’re going to show S4 and S5 back to back and end the show in 2026.
I'm guessing that S5 is going to be a winter/spring show instead of summer.
But I have no idea how much post production goes into this show; considering that S3 wrapped filming last fall.
 
So, if Star Trek Is ending again, and with novels dead, it’ll be up to STO again to carry the torch for Star Trek.
That could be good for them, actually. After having been brought in under the DECA umbrella, where everyone (including myself) feared it would be the kiss of death for STO, it seems to have continued uninterrupted. If the worst happens with the merger (not 100% sure it will, honestly), perhaps some franchise writers could join the team and beef up the property a bit. Bringing back original cast members is also always a welcome feature.
 
Trek has one thing going for it: P+ is a subscription service. A person has to choose to subscribe to it.

If someone sees P+'s programming as too "woke," they can always opt not to subscribe.
 
Has Starfleet Academy finished filming?
I can see a situation where it goes SA in early 2026, followed by SNW in the summer, then SA season two in late 2026, then the final season of SNW in early 2027.
 
Outside of the issues with Kurtzman they seem to be copying Marvel and spending buckets of money spreading Trek too thin with too many weird side projects (Section 31 movie). One major show at a time with a movie thing going on should be enough perhaps with overlap on the next show. Longer seasons (even if they break into halfs or whatever) and better character development.

Would be nice to go back to the prime timeline and stop introducing retcons that are in conflict with the nostalgia.

First step would be to stop bleeding money and perhaps recoup some that they won't get for those unwilling to get another digital service, perhaps back to Netflix and/or Amazon Prime at least on time basis.
 
This.

And Trek isn't that progressive so I don't see problems. But, then, I don't think Trek will keep getting made either, depending on money.

It's a setting where the bulk of the human race is - canonically - post-capitalist and post-religion, and works toward building a benevolent, ever-expanding multi-cultural space U.N.
 
Puck’s Matt Belloni said on his podcast that all of the Paramount+ Star Trek shows are in jeopardy to be canceled by the new regime.
 
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Puck’s Matt Belloni said on his podcast that he expects all of the Paramount+ Star Trek shows to be canceled by the new regime.

Do you have a link? Or a quote, at least? It’s speculation, of course. But I’d be interested in knowing which podcast episode he hypothesized on.
 
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