Future forum status of Trek XI....
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Offering my two cents as a former moderator who also happened to be a mod the last time we had a Star Trek movie:
When NEM was released it had its own forum then, in February 2003, it became a Movies forum. Prior to that point, the TOS and TNG movies were discussed in their respective forums. By February of that year, discussion of NEM had died down enough that it wasn't overwhelming the Movies forum but it still dominated discussion for a few months after that.
Over the past six years the Movies forum has been super-repetitive and I'm more interested in the unofficial community that's sort of develped there more than the actual movies themselves. There were only 20 hours worth of material compared to how many hours there were of material for the rest of the Trek forums. ST XI should be intergrated into the Movies Forum in a few months and inject some new life into that forum before this movie too becomes stale.
It makes sense to keep discussion of ST XII in FOT until we get close to its release. ST XII isn't going to generate the same level of discussion beforehand as this movie did because ST XI was the first movie to be set in the rebooted universe. There was a lot of discussion about how things would or wouldn't be that you just won't have with ST XII.
When NEM was released it had its own forum then, in February 2003, it became a Movies forum. Prior to that point, the TOS and TNG movies were discussed in their respective forums. By February of that year, discussion of NEM had died down enough that it wasn't overwhelming the Movies forum but it still dominated discussion for a few months after that.
Over the past six years the Movies forum has been super-repetitive and I'm more interested in the unofficial community that's sort of develped there more than the actual movies themselves. There were only 20 hours worth of material compared to how many hours there were of material for the rest of the Trek forums. ST XI should be intergrated into the Movies Forum in a few months and inject some new life into that forum before this movie too becomes stale.
It makes sense to keep discussion of ST XII in FOT until we get close to its release. ST XII isn't going to generate the same level of discussion beforehand as this movie did because ST XI was the first movie to be set in the rebooted universe. There was a lot of discussion about how things would or wouldn't be that you just won't have with ST XII.
I don't think the new Star Trek should be segregated; but on the other hand, I do think that it would be best.
I believe those who prefer the previous continuity would be overwhelmed by the posts about this one; it's not unreasonable to suggest that some might even go as far as to continue the argument about which is best, perhaps even in an unseemly, inflammatory fashion. Not everybody can handle being a minority.
I'm not saying everybody is like that; on the contrary. But those who refuse Star Trek and, perhaps, adhere too much to the old one, are much louder then those who love both. It might be best to spare any new fans from that, lest you scare them away faster then they came.
Not only that, but -- I don't speak for them here; just making an assumption -- I'd think they wouldn't want Star Trek intruding upon their old love, either.
So it might be best for both sides.
Of course, when all the commotion does eventually die down -- as I believe it will, eventually --, it's another matter. When the staunch proponents of one of both, who exclude the other, aren't as loud any longer, there's no reason to continue a separate forum. It's all Star Trek anyhow.
I believe those who prefer the previous continuity would be overwhelmed by the posts about this one; it's not unreasonable to suggest that some might even go as far as to continue the argument about which is best, perhaps even in an unseemly, inflammatory fashion. Not everybody can handle being a minority.
I'm not saying everybody is like that; on the contrary. But those who refuse Star Trek and, perhaps, adhere too much to the old one, are much louder then those who love both. It might be best to spare any new fans from that, lest you scare them away faster then they came.
Not only that, but -- I don't speak for them here; just making an assumption -- I'd think they wouldn't want Star Trek intruding upon their old love, either.
So it might be best for both sides.
Of course, when all the commotion does eventually die down -- as I believe it will, eventually --, it's another matter. When the staunch proponents of one of both, who exclude the other, aren't as loud any longer, there's no reason to continue a separate forum. It's all Star Trek anyhow.
I would say yes...it's doing fine right where it is and I'm resistant to change. 
I would like that JJ name to be removed from the tagline/headline...whatever it's called... though.
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I love it...thank you!
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I would like that JJ name to be removed from the tagline/headline...whatever it's called... though.
OMG there are new emoticons....my prayers have been answered...I've been asking for this:
I love it...thank you!
<-------- oh my this little number can be used in several ways I dare say...
Yeah, we still miss a Vorta and a Jem'hadar smily, though.OMG there are new emoticons....my prayers have been answered...I've been asking for this:
I love it...thank you!
That took me 30 seconds to make, I'm sure somebody more artistically inclined could make one 1000 times better
Anyway, another forum would be alot cleaner in my opinion, even after the activity dies down. There's so much stuff in here, that unless a whole ton of threads are pruned, moving everything into the movies forum, at least at this time, would make the movies forum pretty much unusable for people who don't want to talk about XI.
That took me 30 seconds to make, I'm sure somebody more artistically inclined could make one 1000 times better
I... didn't realise that was meant to be Weyoun until I saw the URL. I thought it was a character from Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker.
Maybe when the hype dies down, we should have four subforums in the Movies forum. TOS era movies, TNG movies, JJ movies, and General Trek movie discussion.
I think this is a fair assessment.
On the point of this being connected to the previous continuity. Which continuity?
Seriously there were moments in this film that made me wonder if the future Spock was actually from the one we're already familiar or another one entirely.Okay, let's not get into that argument here.
The next film is, what, two years away? I suspect there's still going to be a lot of discussion about this film as well as what folks expect/want to come next.
Star Trek: Restart
Star Trek: Reboot
Star Trek: Rewind
Star Trek: The New Age
Star Trek: The Altiverse
Whatever the heading I think it deserves its own forum, not only to keep the peace between the old and new, but also for sake of simplicity and clarity. A new origin and continuity is being established that's effectively disconnected from the old. And for all we know this is the continuity that more logically follows ENT than TOS. After all if you paid attention there is a reference to an Admiral Archer in this film--that's surely not an oversight.
Both approaches have their merits, I guess.
Since Trek XI has already been integrated in discussions in other forums on this board, I wouldn't regard it as something apart from previous Trek. So, when discussion has died down, it should be integrated into the Movies forum and discussion of the sequel to Future of Trek (where it already is, by the way).
Since Trek XI has already been integrated in discussions in other forums on this board, I wouldn't regard it as something apart from previous Trek. So, when discussion has died down, it should be integrated into the Movies forum and discussion of the sequel to Future of Trek (where it already is, by the way).
The new Trek BBS should bring you to a page with dozens of different categories to choose from ONLY pertaining to the new trek movie. There should be a small link at the bottom of the page that leads you to a small wiki entry on James Doohan.
Wouldn't it be better to make TOS & TNG movies subfora of TOS & TNG, respectively, have a "NuTrek" forum, and have any "general movie" discussion go to General Trek?
