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I'll never understand the precise limits of these licences. I recall reading a Trek videogame writer wasn't allowed Klingons in a a 90's pitch because they were part of "the Next Gen license" and they had Voyager - despite a Voyager character being half-Klingon!
IIRC, Interplay had the TOS rights for quite a while, and all other games had to avoid any connections to TOS. That's why BotF only has TNG stuff even when you start at the literal birth of your empire :D
 
Sometimes companies will only pay for limited rights by way of reducing costs, so for example one licensor could only have a Voyager license, which means they can only do stuff that's particular to that show. That would explain the Klingon Empire and Klingon characters being off-limits.

Back when I edited the Marvel novels in the 1990s, we had a very specific list of characters we could (and couldn't) use, just as an example.
i remember having the DC universe card set from the early '90s and the Dick Grayson Nightwing card listed his bio as 'formerly half of a famous crime-fighting duo' .. apparently Topps had the rights to do Batman and Robin cards and the company doing the other set only had the rights to the rest of the DC Comics universe and that was how they tapped around the dividing line.
 
IIRC, Interplay had the TOS rights for quite a while, and all other games had to avoid any connections to TOS. That's why BotF only has TNG stuff even when you start at the literal birth of your empire :D
I remember seeing screenshots of that as a kid and being fascinated by the premise, but it never occured to be I never saw anything other than TNG-era ships:lol:
 
They even had to use TNG pictures for the aliens, like the Cardassians, Bajorans, Vulcans, Andorians, because they didn't have the license for TOS or DS9 pictures :D
 
i remember having the DC universe card set from the early '90s and the Dick Grayson Nightwing card listed his bio as 'formerly half of a famous crime-fighting duo' .. apparently Topps had the rights to do Batman and Robin cards and the company doing the other set only had the rights to the rest of the DC Comics universe and that was how they tapped around the dividing line.
I had those! I probably still have a card box with my duplicates somewhere in my brother's attic. :)

Similarly, when Graphitti Designs did a t-shirt of the Death of Superman, using the Dan Jurgens art of the heroes carrying Superman's coffin, Graphitti had to remove Batman and Robin, both pallbearers from the image, swapping in Captain Marvel for Batman and, really oddly, Changeling for Robin, because someone else had the t-shirt rights for the Dynamic Duo. Changeling wasn't elsewhere in Jurgens' image, so he didn't matter, but Captain Marvel was in the crowd behind the coffin, so he was replaced with someone I don't recognize but I know I knew at the time. (He's behind and to the left of Booster Gold in the half-red, half-black costume.)
 
For that matter, when I wrote the history of the Klingon Empire for Modiphius's Klingon Empire Core Rulebook, I had to avoid the Klingon-Federation war portrayed in the first season of Discovery, as well as any mention of L'Rell, because Modiphius didn't have the rights to anything from the Secret Hideout shows at the time. Took some verbal tap-dancing, that did.....
 
So it is! That's as random a choice as Changeling as a pallbearer!
an interesting choice in terms of rights as Peter Cannon Thunderbolt remained creator-owned at the time and the rights have since reverted away from DC and i think were shopped to Dynamite... meaning it might be time to put Batman and Robin back!
 
an interesting choice in terms of rights as Peter Cannon Thunderbolt remained creator-owned at the time and the rights have since reverted away from DC and i think were shopped to Dynamite... meaning it might be time to put Batman and Robin back!
At this point, the t-shirt's long out of print, so it hardly matters. I still have mine from the time, but I don't fit it anymore. :)

Yeah, Dynamite licensed Peter Cannon. Kieron Gillen did a series that sort of riffs on Watchmen (as Peter Cannon, Thunderbolt was the inspiration for Ozymandias).

For a Star Trek connection, SCE cover artist Mike Collins was the writer/artist of the 90s DC series.
 
IIRC, Interplay had the TOS rights for quite a while, and all other games had to avoid any connections to TOS. That's why BotF only has TNG stuff even when you start at the literal birth of your empire :D
Yeah, when Activision first got the Trek License they could only use TNG+ stuff. But that changed at some point.

Speaking of game oddities though, the collector's edition of Starfleet Academy, which comes with the base game + expansion, the CD case uses the MSD of the Enterprise-E as the spread out art, even though the game as set in the 2280s.
 
Yes, but that's what I meant -- that Dracula was treated in the story as a fictional character brought to life through technology, so it wasn't the real Marvel Dracula appearing in the story (though IIRC, the dialogue allows room for the possibility that he really existed in the past). "Illusion" doesn't specifically mean something intangible, it means something deceptive and unreal, something that isn't genuinely what it appears to be.

Room for a Buffy-Trek
Crossover? It would combine
my two-favorite [things.]

I would love to see that. BtVS season 13, perhaps. :devil:+:vulcan:+:klingon:

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This is concept art from "Star Trek: The Next Generation/Aliens: Acceptable Losses", a TNG/Alien crossover that ultimately never got completed. It should have, though. (That would have also added Predator and the Terminator into the Trek universe; don't try to make sense of how the timelines would work.) Take a look at Picard's face in the first one. :lol:
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You can see more at this site and read about the series at Alien vs. Predator wiki.
 
Given the short time between the announcement of the TNG/Aliens project (late October 2016) and its cancellation (late December 2016), my guess has long been the two studios (CBS and Fox) couldn't get the same page on an approved plot or wanted wildly divergent things that would have been impossible to resolve, so Dark Horse announced the plug was being pulled rather than prolong matters.

That's just a guess on my part.
 
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Just to let you know for future reference, the board software always really posts your new post at the end of the thread. If you're on a page other than the last page when you make the post, it will display it on the current page for you, but it will show to others at the end of the thread, and if you go to the last page, you will see it there, and then if you go back to the original page, it will no longer display there.

Just wanted to let you know, to save yourself from deleting/reposting if it ever happens again. :)
 
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