Full Circle Review Thread (Spoilers)
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^Yeah... I was picturing something similar, of course the E's bridge is confusing to remember for me and more often than not, I'm playing out the scenes in my mind on the bridge of the D (I did watch it for 7 years) til I remember otherwise.
Guess that makes sense.
Guess that makes sense.
That third seat isn't explicitly reserved for Cambridge. Should the Admiral of the Fleet wish to observe from the bridge, there's now room for him, plus the normal captain and first officer seats. Absent the admiral, Cambridge or an appropriate mission specialist could be there. The choice had more to do with the change to the fleet configuration than the desire to constantly have the counselor on the bridge. The cute chick factor did not apply.
Best,
Kirsten
Best,
Kirsten
I thought she was serving as the conn officer in addition to being the contact specialist.
Ah, yes, of course. Thank you, Kirsten. I forgot Voyager is now the flagship of a fleet and Batiste might desire a place on the bridge every once in a while. He'll step on Eden's toes and irritate her, I imagine.
i thought Trys sat at the side with ...um... watsername, the science officer.
Let me take a guess ...
1. Chakotay takes back the seat of Voyager.
2. For that to happen, Eden is killed or -- more likely -- is promoted to fleet admiral.
3. Her ex-husband is replaced by her or he died. The latter would give her grief for character development.
That would be pretty okay for me. I don't mind Captain Eden, only her being captain of Voyager. For her to stay in the novels would be great.
4. Seven, B'Elanna and Miral return to the ship.
That would be awesome as well. It's funny how I resented "Full Circle" at first of giving us only a few people back on board. Now it's pretty clear where the direction is headed - it just takes a few novels. And that's even better 'cause it leaves things uncertain.
One thing I didn't like Voyager for: In the end, mostly everything was back to status quo. Kirsten Beyer has managed to shake things up and it feels to me that this is Voyager like it should have been. Uncertain and exciting.
I wrote the bridge scenes in Greater Than the Sum with the assumption that she was in the third chair. I'm not sure what subsequent authors have done with her. It's possible that, as Kirsten said about the third chair on Voyager, its occupant could vary depending on the needs of the mission.
Joanna Faur is at the conn normally. Trys is a relief conn officer when needed -- something that I never intended but that was added to the character's resume to give her something to do when the story doesn't require a contact specialist, I guess.
I have similar speculations about this with regard to Unworthy.
1. I agree with you.
2. I don't think Eden will be killed but will instead learn more about that artifact and perhaps find her people or possibly go off on a soul-searching mission of her own and resign. This would also leave open the ability to revisit her later.
3. Batiste will remain the admiral which will give us a better (IMO) type of conflict between he and Chakotay given his quick willingness to boot him from the ship to begin with.
4. Yep, exactly.
^Unfortunately, the idea that the Enterprise carried civilians -- not just families of Starfleet personnel, but a complement of civilian researchers -- was one of the many ideas that got lost in the revolving door of producers on TNG. It would've been interesting to see a TNG that explored the dynamic of Starfleet personnel coexisting with and protecting a largely civilian research crew, but we never got that. But then, maybe part of the problem is that there were no major civilian characters to begin with other than Wesley, who was soon given a brevet rank in Starfleet. So maybe it was inevitable that the civilian side of the E-D crew would've been forgotten.
Hey, what might've been even cooler is if Deanna had been a civilian from the beginning, with the liaison role you suggest. That would've fit well with a series focusing on a more mixed crew -- civilians doing the scientific and diplomatic work, officers handling security matters, ship functions, etc. And Picard having to oversee the whole thing, balancing his own officer and scientist sides as he tries to maintain the balance between the halves of the crew.
Hey, what might've been even cooler is if Deanna had been a civilian from the beginning, with the liaison role you suggest. That would've fit well with a series focusing on a more mixed crew -- civilians doing the scientific and diplomatic work, officers handling security matters, ship functions, etc. And Picard having to oversee the whole thing, balancing his own officer and scientist sides as he tries to maintain the balance between the halves of the crew.
If you don't like it when everything returns to normal and the status quo is maintained or reverted to, why are you so eager to boot Eden off and get all the old crew back on the ship?
Troi being a civilian is a cool idea and could have been great. She was already the counselor, a role that easily could have been a civilian, except when classified information was being discussed. This would probably have made it more difficult for her to be a diplomatic officer like she is on Titan. BSG explored the dynamic between military and civilian working together, a lot of times, to explosive results. Of course, the Galactica was in a completely different situation than the E-D was in.
Maybe the early TNG writers and producers thought that since Starfleet wasn't purely military, that specialists in the sciences and diplomacy would still enlist with the Fleet. Civilian's in those roles may have made it seem like the rest of the Starfleet personnel are soldiers instead of explorers...
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I happen to like Troi and Lwaxana (obviously). Of course, my sons often say, "Mother, you are Lwaxana."
I'm a big Lwaxana fan. There are far worse things to be
I thought Lwaxana was funny, I loved her character.I happen to like Troi and Lwaxana (obviously). Of course, my sons often say, "Mother, you are Lwaxana."
