Full Circle Review Thread (Spoilers)

[Paris]

I'd like to see Janeway return at some point as well, but hopefully not for a few more years. Mrs. Beyer has a very intriguing set up for the various members of the crew and i'd like to see it play out a little longer in a Janeway-free landscape. It will make her return (if it ever even happens) all the more sweet

 

[Steve Roby]

I'm going to add just one thing...Janeway is seen going off with a Q in Before Dishonor.

The last person we "saw" doing this was Vash...and she's clearly not dead.

Margaret

So Janeway's been abandoned in the Gamma Q? How mean!

Who said she's been abandoned in the Gamma Quadrant?

JB2005 was making a joke, based on what happened to Vash.

 

[Paris]

I always found it funny that the one Frenchman on Trek was involved with a woman named "Vash" and he never ever cracked a smile when it came to her name. I know it's not spelled the same as the French version of cow ("vache"), but it sounds the exact same.

Vash: "Hi. My name is Vash."
Picard: "......uh....pardon?"

 

[JB2005]

I'm going to add just one thing...Janeway is seen going off with a Q in Before Dishonor.

The last person we "saw" doing this was Vash...and she's clearly not dead.

Margaret

So Janeway's been abandoned in the Gamma Q? How mean!

Though Vash wasn't taken from an exploding Borg ship after been turned into a Borg Queen...but I'm not going to split hairs

Who said she's been abandoned in the Gamma Quadrant? I assume the Q can simply restore her to the timeline whenever and wherever they want!

No that's what happened to Vash...

 

[Christopher]

I always found it funny that the one Frenchman on Trek was involved with a woman named "Vash" and he never ever cracked a smile when it came to her name. I know it's not spelled the same as the French version of cow ("vache"), but it sounds the exact same.

Good grief. I always thought "Vash" was an odd and unappealing name, but that just makes it worse.

 

[flandry84]

I've just finished the book and while I was never a huge Voyager fan,all I can say is Wow!
I am really looking forward to these new Delta quadrant adventures,the prospects are very intriguing.
Congratulations to Ms.Beyer and well done for laying down some very enticing clues for future storylines.I haven't read this thread all the way through so I don't know if anyone has brought up the subject of Batistes' seeming bad health,perhaps a storyline in the making?
Chakotay,incidentally,had been my favourite on-screen voyager,and there is no need to reiterate the poor service the TV writers gave him.I hope he will receive a better deal in print.TBH, losing Chakotay or relegating him to some Earth-based support role would be a shame.
Just my opinion.

 

[Paris]

I've just finished the book and while I was never a huge Voyager fan,all I can say is Wow!
I am really looking forward to these new Delta quadrant adventures,the prospects are very intriguing.
Congratulations to Ms.Beyer and well done for laying down some very enticing clues for future storylines.I haven't read this thread all the way through so I don't know if anyone has brought up the subject of Batistes' seeming bad health,perhaps a storyline in the making?
Chakotay,incidentally,had been my favourite on-screen voyager,and there is no need to reiterate the poor service the TV writers gave him.I hope he will receive a better deal in print.TBH, losing Chakotay or relegating him to some Earth-based support role would be a shame.
Just my opinion.

I guessing that there is no way that Chakotay will be relegated to a support role on Earth. Kirsten spent so much time making Chakotay the most interesting character in the book, that she can't let all that work go to waste. Things are just starting for Chakotay it seems. October and Unworthy can't get here fast enough

 

[JD]

I finished the second half of the book a last week, but forgot to put up a review and TBH I don't feel like it at the moment. I will say however that I loved the second half just as much, if not more, than the first half. Definitely one of the best Voyager stories period, any medium.
My final rating would be a 9/10.

 

[Frazzled]

I haven't read this thread all the way through so I don't know if anyone has brought up the subject of Batistes' seeming bad health,perhaps a storyline in the making?

Kill the b*stard please!!!

I liked the other new characters - they may stay

 

[Csalem]

Maybe it was Janeway's voice Seven heard in her head.

 

[brcarthey]

^that's an interesting thought.

 

[JB2005]

I've just finished the book and while I was never a huge Voyager fan,all I can say is Wow!
I am really looking forward to these new Delta quadrant adventures,the prospects are very intriguing.
Congratulations to Ms.Beyer and well done for laying down some very enticing clues for future storylines.I haven't read this thread all the way through so I don't know if anyone has brought up the subject of Batistes' seeming bad health,perhaps a storyline in the making?
Chakotay,incidentally,had been my favourite on-screen voyager,and there is no need to reiterate the poor service the TV writers gave him.I hope he will receive a better deal in print.TBH, losing Chakotay or relegating him to some Earth-based support role would be a shame.
Just my opinion.

But just because he's not in Starfleet means his story-telling potential is at an end...I always thought it was interesting that they kept the maquis as provisional crew for seven years, ignored everything else pretty much, but never got rid of that...Chakotay was never in starfleet when we knew him, so having him leave to help a friend is really more in keeping with the Chakotay we know, (based on his maquis history and so on)

 

[T'Ressa Dax]

I always found it funny that the one Frenchman on Trek was involved with a woman named "Vash" and he never ever cracked a smile when it came to her name. I know it's not spelled the same as the French version of cow ("vache"), but it sounds the exact same.

Vash: "Hi. My name is Vash."
Picard: "......uh....pardon?"

::snort;: They should've just made it short for Vashti... <G>

 

[Sxottlan]

I didn't have a chance to read the whole thread, but I quite enjoyed this book. I did have to chuckle at a few of the exits for some of the characters and plots from the unfortunate predecessors to this book. I especially enjoyed the off-handed one sentence exit for Astral. Ha! Also liked how everything else is wrapped up except for the silly holo-revolution.

Structurally, the two different halves are noticeable, contributing to a slightly uneven, fractured feeling. I really didn't see the need for the mystery about the mission. Perhaps there was a feeling that if readers saw that off the top, they'd not finish it?

For me, that created a frustrated feeling as I was dying to get all the nitty gritty about putting together the Voyager Fleet. However, once it actually starts to happen, the book ends, practically on the typical briefing scene one usually gets at the beginning of a book. I'm definitely scratching my head at the decision to do it this way, but it's also making me an automatic buy for the next installment. Here's hoping the next one doesn't skip all of the early days of the fleet.

I don't think I've seen much discussion of the new fleet.

 

[Defcon]

For me, that created a frustrated feeling as I was dying to get all the nitty gritty about putting together the Voyager Fleet. However, once it actually starts to happen, the book ends, practically on the typical briefing scene one usually gets at the beginning of a book. I'm definitely scratching my head at the decision to do it this way, but it's also making me an automatic buy for the next installment.

This is from an interview I did with Kirsten a while back and I think kind of adresses your concern:

"I initially outlined the story chronologically and intended it to cover two novels. My editor decided that he really wanted the finale of what I originally conceived as ‘Book 2’ to happen at the end of ‘Book 1’, and the only way to do that was to condense and re-structure the stories. I think the result hangs together dramatically but can be jarring and feel a little disconnected structurally. But this was an unavoidable trade-off given the mandate to cover all two and a half years on one book.”

 

[flandry84]

Kill the b*stard please!!!

I liked the other new characters - they may stay [/QUOTE]
Well,given the characters first name,it was too tempting for me not to mentally cast a certain W.Defoe in the role of Admiral Batiste.And seeing that I could watch that actor read passages from the phone book ,I'm reluctant to see him go.


That said,an exit by Batiste,a subsequent promotion for Eden would pave the way for Chakotays return to Voyager.
Isn't it great to see such enthusiasm about arguably Treks most maligned incarnation?

 

[Frazzled]

I didn't have a chance to read the whole thread, but I quite enjoyed this book. I did have to chuckle at a few of the exits for some of the characters and plots from the unfortunate predecessors to this book. I especially enjoyed the off-handed one sentence exit for Astral. Ha! Also liked how everything else is wrapped up except for the silly holo-revolution.

I'm usually fairly compassionate, anti-violence and hate character death. However I have to admit that Lyssa Campbell's unfortunate demise gave me a certain sense of satisfaction!

I hated the way she seemed to pop up only in Golden's books as if she was a main regular character.

I thought the holo revolution was more or less rounded off in The Farther Shore? I may be remembering incorrectly it's been ages since I read it.

 

[Kirsten Beyer]

Isn't it great to see such enthusiasm about arguably Treks most maligned incarnation?

It is as far as I'm concerned.

And thanks to all for continuing to post their thoughts, both good and less so. Always interesting to read.

Best,
Kirsten

 

[AuntKate]

Isn't it great to see such enthusiasm about arguably Treks most maligned incarnation?

It is as far as I'm concerned.

And thanks to all for continuing to post their thoughts, both good and less so. Always interesting to read.

Best,
Kirsten

At last! Someone else who isn't tired of talking about Janeway!

 

[USS Intrepid]

I'd been chipping away at Full Circle for a few days, then finally had a chance to finish it off on night shift this week, and I have to say, I really enjoyed it. This is probably the best Voyager novel I've read, and frankly one of the best Trek novels I've read. I'd rate it up with Prime Directive, and Strangers from the Sky, which have always been a favourites of mine.

I've said before that I hate what was done to Janeway, that hasn't changed a bit, nor am I terribly keen on the current direction of the 24th century literature, and while Full Circle hasn't changed that, it has certainly guaranteed I will continue to read the Voyager Relaunch, and will do so with enthusiasm.

I think I have a pretty good idea how this is going to play out, but since I don't want to risk screwing up any plans or tempting fate, I'll keep those thoughts to myself. I will say however, that I'm pretty sure the entire gang will reunite in the end, inclduing Janeway.

Kirsten Beyer, you are one bloody talented writer. Thank you for taking at least one part of the 24th Century fiction to a place this fan wants to go.