Full Circle Fleet: Demeter in the works

[Clawhammer]

Sorry! I have been away for too long, but I'm coming back. Slowly though... I had an epic creative burnout, to the point where I was about to let it all go. It's annoying how daily life can get in the way of things and how stress can impact the will to be creative.

Anyhow 20% done:

Will update when I made good progress.

 

[ryan123450]

Thats amazing work Mark! Keep those creative juices flowing!

 

[F. King Daniel]

A Federation ship with an old Vulcan warp ring? Was the warp ring mentioned in the novels at all?

 

[starri]

I seem to remember reading something about how Starfleet had abandoned the warp rings in favor of the nacelles from some technical reason or other. I can't remember what book it might have been in.

 

[Christopher]

I seem to remember reading something about how Starfleet had abandoned the warp rings in favor of the nacelles from some technical reason or other. I can't remember what book it might have been in.

It was actually in the centerfold of the 2011 Ships of the Line calendar (text by Michael Okuda), but I cribbed it for Forgotten History. Basically ring-type drives have trouble changing direction at high warp.

Although it's possible that some recent breakthrough has overcome that limitation. Or perhaps it was decided that a ringship was a good fit for slipstream for some reason.

 

[Patrick O'Brien]

Awesome, thanks for sharing

 

[shanejayell]

Since in the images of slipstream we've seen involve a tunnelling effect, it could be the ring design might stabilize the tunnel effect more.

Lovely image.

 

[JD]

That is a nice looking ship.

 

[DEWLine]

Guessing that Starfleet Command is going to find a use for Theophrastus-class ships in more than just the "Full Circle" program...?

Also, security issues now hinted at as rearing their heads here too. "Vulcan-Andorian"?

 

[Julio Angel Ortiz]

Pardon my ignorance... is this a WIP for a design that will be used in the books (a la Aventine)? Or is this for fun?

Anywho... it's funny, because I'm a bit of a traditionalist in terms of Trek ship designs. I'm a fan of the standard saucer section / nacelle paradigm and usually am not a fan when I see designs diverge from that.

Having said that... this looks awesome.

 

[Mage]

I love that this finally shows alien ship design in Starfleet!! I always thought that Starfleet ship design would be a blending of designs from all Federation races. Then, when we see the NX01 for the first time, it seems that Starfleet ship design in the 24th century is based only on Human design. Where's the input from all the other 150 species making up the Federation?

So, to see something Starfleet, but with influences from non-Human species..... YES!!! Huge, big, YES!!!!

 

[F. King Daniel]

I love that this finally shows alien ship design in Starfleet!! I always thought that Starfleet ship design would be a blending of designs from all Federation races. Then, when we see the NX01 for the first time, it seems that Starfleet ship design in the 24th century is based only on Human design. Where's the input from all the other 150 species making up the Federation?

Although not external, the computer interfaces on Enterprise's Vulcan starships very much resembled the TOS movie era Starfleet displays (and one large display in "Fusion" even looked a lot like a static version of the STXI Enterprise's swirly perimiter station graphics)

 

[Skywalker]

Although it's possible that some recent breakthrough has overcome that limitation. Or perhaps it was decided that a ringship was a good fit for slipstream for some reason.

Haven't you mentioned before that slipstream-capable ships ought to be narrower in shape compared to the standard wide saucer Starfleet has typically employed in the past? Something like that, at least. I'm sure I've got something wrong.

Anyway, it sounds reasonable (to my sleep-deprived brain, at least) that a ringship would be a natural fit for slipstream, since a warp ring would probably suggest a narrower design for the ship's main fuselage.

Anyway, the design looks great, Mark! I can't wait to see the finished product.

 

[Drago-Kazov]

Is this guy Drexler?

 

[Mage]

Is this guy Drexler?

Nope, he's Mark Rademaker who designed and modeled the Vesta class and is doing the re-design for Voyager.

His blog is at http://www.ewe-squad.com

 

[Tirius]

I love that this finally shows alien ship design in Starfleet!! I always thought that Starfleet ship design would be a blending of designs from all Federation races. Then, when we see the NX01 for the first time, it seems that Starfleet ship design in the 24th century is based only on Human design. Where's the input from all the other 150 species making up the Federation?

So, to see something Starfleet, but with influences from non-Human species..... YES!!! Huge, big, YES!!!!

This kind of covers everything I'd planned to say originally. As for "where is the non-human tech" - it could be that a lot of that is in the internal systems of course. It'd be interesting to see what a Starfleet ship built for non-humanoids would look like on the inside...

Loved the Vesta and the Merian, so very interested in how this one turns out.

 

[Drago-Kazov]

Thanks.

 

[Christopher]

I love that this finally shows alien ship design in Starfleet!! I always thought that Starfleet ship design would be a blending of designs from all Federation races. Then, when we see the NX01 for the first time, it seems that Starfleet ship design in the 24th century is based only on Human design. Where's the input from all the other 150 species making up the Federation?

Although not external, the computer interfaces on Enterprise's Vulcan starships very much resembled the TOS movie era Starfleet displays (and one large display in "Fusion" even looked a lot like a static version of the STXI Enterprise's swirly perimiter station graphics)

Also, the bridge layout of the Andorian starship Kumari had some subtle similarities to TOS, like twin helm/nav consoles in front and outward-facing crew stations in a ring around the captain's chair, even though the plan was more open.

And we do have evidence from ENT that some familiar Starfleet tech did come from alien powers. NX-01 didn't have deflector shields or tractor beams, but the Vulcans and Andorians did. So it's a safe bet that those technologies were among the Vulcan and Andorian contributions to the Federation Starfleet.

 

[BillJ]

Did we ever get to see the redesigned Voyager?

 

[Mage]

Did we ever get to see the redesigned Voyager?

It's not finished yet. Mark's still working on it, and he posted a few sketches on his blog, with some ideas. His last posts was a render of some very detailed bussard collectors for the new nacelles.

His blog has a few posts with some of the ideas he has for the redesign.