Once again STO leads the way. For a product that has to lean to shooty shooty pew pew, because ultimately, it's a game, it's sure got its Trek head screwed on.
Frustrations with Trek lit...
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Once again STO leads the way. For a product that has to lean to shooty shooty pew pew, because ultimately, it's a game, it's sure got its Trek head screwed on.
Because if there's one thing that Star Trek has always stood for, it's nostalgic pining for the golden age that was past and hoping that nothing ever, ever changes.
Since this is a Frustrations thread, even though it's not really Treklit, I'm just going to say it here: I have never heard of a single aspect of Star Trek Online's setting or storylines that have interested me even a slight bit. Maybe I've missed that pinnacle storyline or that great setting addition that really highlights the quality or captures the feel of Trek, but none of the developments I've read about in STO give me that sense. I've been a Star Trek fan for decades now, but in the MMO sphere, FF14 and WoW (especially Legion) interest me story-wise way more than anything I've seen about STO.
If there is a really great thing in that game that could have just gone under the radar for me, please feel free to link it because I'd honestly love to be turned around on this, but it just feels so skewed.
I've played most of the gam (save for pretty much everything after the Iconian War) and if there's one great thing about it, than it's the Romulan storyline. It had some really great missions (for example "Mind Game") and here's a link to people saying what they liked and disliked about the Romulan story: https://www.reddit.com/r/sto/comments/3a2onk/is_there_a_widespread_disappointment_with_the/ and a link to the wiki page of the Romulan sotryline missions: http://sto.gamepedia.com/Episode. I also quite liked the Federation 23rd century character missions, but those were very very fanservice-y.
So? That's how things should be. And not just Star Trek books.
I love both STO and TrekLit. They stand as equals. Different extrapolations from the canon source material, each slaved to its medium. So novels have character building and STO has more battles. As the French say, "Selery."
There is no universal greatness, only personal taste. And for people like me, you can fly a Luna-class USS Enceladus or a Vesta-class USS Quinine across three quadrants. #CrossPollination
There is no universal greatness, only personal taste. And for people like me, you can fly a Luna-class USS Enceladus or a Vesta-class USS Quinine across three quadrants. #CrossPollination
I loved the original DS9, but so far the new one has seemed like a pretty cool setting in the Fall books.
I think the original had already lost a lot it's alienness that it started out with a while ago, so I wasn't to bothered by bringing in a new one. I liked the fact that it was totally different, with a lot of facilities that weren't part of the original.
Much like the NuNiverse destroying Vulcan, I applaud the writers of the Lit for being willing to take a chance by doing something sure to rile up some fans.
Personally, I was shocked and saddened that it happend, and for unrelated reasons I haven't read much of the new station, but I'm looking forward to seeing what it might have to offer.
Personally, I was shocked and saddened that it happend, and for unrelated reasons I haven't read much of the new station, but I'm looking forward to seeing what it might have to offer.
I'll admit that the new station feels more like a standard Federation starbase (which it is) as opposed to the dark alien original DS9. However I don't think that that lack of "character" of the station does impact the DS9 stories that heavily. The only thing that I disliked about the first The Fall novel were the Kira chapters, which were the ones not set on DS9. I don't remember the station on the third novel that much, but I'm fairly sure that it was not a major place in it.
My main frustration is the inability of the novelverse to explore the fallout of Romulus' destruction and Spock's (assumed, coinciding now with Leonard Nimoy's real life) death. So much rich story potential going to waste.
Of course, it's out of everyone's hands so not sure it counts for this thread.
Of course, it's out of everyone's hands so not sure it counts for this thread.
After yesterday, I can now prove that it is possible for someone who hasn't read any modern Trek Lit to randomly pick up a book and understand and enjoy it. My mom was stuck at a car repair place all day yesterday and she got bored and decided to find something to read. She ended up picking The Fall: Peaceable Kingdoms because she enjoys Dayton's posts on Facebook, and she wanted to see what one of his books was like. The only experience she has with Trek Lit is some numbered TNG books that she read back when the show was still on the air, and the early New Frontier books, and she was still able to follow and enjoy PK. She said there was enough explanations and recaps in the early parts of the book that she was to understand everything.
My main frustration is the inability of the novelverse to explore the fallout of Romulus' destruction and Spock's (assumed, coinciding now with Leonard Nimoy's real life) death. So much rich story potential going to waste.
Of course, it's out of everyone's hands so not sure it counts for this thread.
To be fair, though, in-universe, the destruction of Romulus is still about a year away - Isn't the furthest point in the 24th century stories still in the early part of 2386, while the destruction of Romulus doesn't happen until an undetermined point in 2387? It's entirely possible that they can stretch things out so that a solution can be worked out in time for them to actually address the destruction/fallout.
Honestly, the issue I keep coming back to is that... Really, especially with the fact that DS9 was destroyed and rebuilt within the same duology, especially with how I read them back to back, when I'm picturing things on DS9, it's still the Cardassian-designed DS9 in my mind. Nothing has seriously changed - a couple of locations have a different name, but in practical terms, the new station might as well be the old one.
Destroying DS9 at this point feels like it was done for shock value. While it did affect the political storyline, having the Federation and Typhon Pact come to the brink of war, for what it's done for the DS9 characters, the effect has been functionally nil from what I've seen. It almost feels like the decision came about something like 'hey, since we haven't had any DS9 novels in a long time, let's just blow up the station and scatter the crew the winds or something- Wait, what do you mean you're commissioning new DS9 novels? Oh FU-'
Now that you've posted the story idea, you've pretty much guaranteed it's not gonna happen. (Thank the prophets!
)OK, I know it's just a game, but... what exactly would Q's motivation even be for bothering with something like that?
The board software doesn't actually allow me to "like" part of a post, but... *Like*
Really? You seriously feel that way?
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The new station may not have the same "character" as the old station, it's true. But it does help to show that things change and progress in the Star Trek universe, just like in real life, which I like.
If they had had some Starfleet admiral actually say, "Hey, we're going to build the new starbase facility in the system of one of our newest members to look exactly like a decades-old mining station from another nation, which incidentally brutally oppressed said members for decades, because nostalgia", I would have been in this thread complaining that the authors were having the characters make unrealistic decisions just to keep everything unchanging, and always using the reset button to put everything back like they were in the shows.
Yes. A lifetime of repeated, uncontrollable change which led to chaos, pain, and misery taught me to feel that way.
And now, all of a sudden, I'm wondering what an Easy Listening version of "Enter Sandman" would sound like.
It's going to be one of those days, isn't it?
I can see how you feel that way and that's fine. I'm just no longer the adventurous youth I was twenty years ago. These days I prefer the comfort and stability of the familiar.
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