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From a fan film viewer

Danlav05

Commodore
Commodore
I'm writing this as a viewer not a creator

Over the past 10+ years I have watched many a fan film. Since the ending of Voyager I've been following these series, shorts and even independent features online, and their growth as technology has enabled them to develop. Particular projects I've followed:

- Hidden Frontier/Odyssey/The Helena Chronicles/Federation One

The first fan series I ever got into. Notable for being the first to do gay storylines, the 70ish episodes overall had overarching plots and characters which would develop as well if not BETTER than some of the characters on televison

- New Voyages/Phase II

Although I liked the movie series before I checked this out I didn't pay much attention to The Original Series. This made me go back and actually looking at the show on DVD this widening my horizons and made me fall back in love with the franchise. A major point about this show was that they began using elements from the 'lost' TV series such as unmade scripts, costumes and design ideas. While I know many prefer Continues (and I'll talk about them later) for being closer to what would have happened in 1969 I liked how elements from the Movie era and TNG cropped in retroactively.

- Intrepid

The underdog of the fan film world. Beautiful locations, great cast and some fun ideas - great quality whiler this still reminds you of the fun of making fan films.

- Renegades

Although rewriting the Trek elements and filming as a non-Trek movie, these guys have endeavoured to continue. Although I'm gutted that a while bunch of Trek characters are not officially returning, the cast will be keeping the same roles jsut with different names. The production photos look good.

- Continues

This can be applauded for literally looking straight out of the 60s, the cast is great as all have settled into their roles. I love Lolani and The Fairest of Them All. Good guest casting too

- Starship Farragut

Giving TOS the spin-off treatment TNG did, a series of enjoyable adventures of a completely different 23rd Century crew

Outside of the long-running series there's stuff like Exeter, Horizon, Deception, and many others who have produced sterling work in the name of Star Trek. I'd like to thank all of them for over the past decade+ for their hard work and stunning creativity. I hope that it can all somehow continue.

Now these 'guidelines' have angered a lot of people, myself included. That with a certain political shock in my country made the end of last week feel like the apocalypse! It's not just a hunger for indie Trek to continue, it's the fact that a lot of hard work by good people MAY now have to go out of the window. Continues and New Voyages want to do more episodes, Farragut wanted to go into the movie era and others like Intrepid & Anthology had more stories in the pipeline.

Maybe Wednesday's podcast will show a tiny little light at the end of the tunnel - a few things are NOT clear. The rules seem to instruct no ongoing series and no non-merchandise props/costumes. Does this mean one must spend thousands on expensive Anovos costumes? Will ongoing projects be forced to sit forever in a state of post-production? What about audio drama?

Another thing suggested is a boycott of official Trek, which is absurd. The cinema, the series, books, comics--- the reason why we all love fan films is because we watched real Trek in the first place! CBS have a right to protect their intellectual property. Maybe AP's meddling is the problem. If we want a change MAYBE we could give our voice, which people are doing via asking question on the podcast page.

If we want change we have to tell CBS.
 
I respond thusly: I don't want change.

I haven't seen every single Trek fanfilm series, and I haven't liked every one that I have seen, but my favorites are NV/P2 and Continues and I'm truly upset that those series might not be able to continue as they have been presented to this point. However, I believe the guidelines handed down by CBS/Paramount are absolutely necessary to protect what rightfully belongs to them, and I wouldn't care if they never eased up on them. After all, I live in the only country on Earth that used atomic weapons in combat, so I grew up with the idea that sometimes the enemy makes the nuclear option the only option. AP literally begged for the nuclear option.

Like I said, I love NV and Continues, but something Christian Gossett said in the G&T Show interview stands out to me: If the makers of those shows find they can't continue to make fanfilms under these restrictions, they could just start making their own original space shows. I think that's a great idea. It's not like their crews don't have the imagination and experience.

Meanwhile, if you really want to send CBS and Paramount a message, tell them "Thank You" for the Star Trek they've already given us in every form and show them you get why they did what they did.
 
The Hidden Frontier Productions people were the embodiment of "made for fans by fans." There is so much Trekkie soul in everything they've ever cobbled together in their collective garages than many episodes of actual Star Trek. I especially adored The Helena Chronicles and Odyssey, which both had wonderfully respectable production values for a simple green screen show.
 
The Hidden Frontier Productions people were the embodiment of "made for fans by fans." There is so much Trekkie soul in everything they've ever cobbled together in their collective garages than many episodes of actual Star Trek. I especially adored The Helena Chronicles and Odyssey, which both had wonderfully respectable production values for a simple green screen show.

Intepid is included in this
 
George Lucas couldn't license Flash Gordon and got dicked around by the studio that owned it so he went on and wrote Star Wars. Perhaps that's why we don't see as many new and creative endeavors as we used to. To many people working on old ideas. I mean heck until recently Joss Whedon, J.M.S (Creator of Babylon 5) and many more have been working and writing for existing properties. Maybe these challenges will give us a new and refreshing Sci-Fi franchise like we have been hoping for!
 
You know, my impression is the same as yours. One of our friends, though, reads that very differently. The actual statement is:

If the fan production uses commercially-available Star Trek uniforms, accessories, toys and props, these items must be official merchandise and not bootleg items or imitations of such commercially available products.

And our friend reads that as "if a fan production is using accessories, toys and props that are commercially available they must purchase official merchandise rather than imitate it" - that is, if my characters wear TOS tunics, since these are commercially available through licensees I must purchase rather than make them.
 
And our friend reads that as "if a fan production is using accessories, toys and props that are commercially available they must purchase official merchandise rather than imitate it" - that is, if my characters wear TOS tunics, since these are commercially available through licensees I must purchase rather than make them.

CBS probably needs to clarify then. Because I can see both readings being valid.
 
You know, my impression is the same as yours. One of our friends, though, reads that very differently.
I think that statement is very open to interpretation, though I r alive some disagree. My feeling is that based on the studio's previous behaviour towards fanfilms, that this is unlikely to be something they would enforce.
 
Which is really where the wait and see game gets to start. I understand the initial emotional uproar, because, as a general rule, I hate change and the fact that CBS handed down the guidelines is frustrating.

But, I also know that this is a growing pains process as the guidelines are hashed out and hopefully CBS provides more specific clarification. But, yeah, it's still new.
 
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