Friggin' old people...
Fringe: "6B" - 2/18 on FOX - Grading & Discussion
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Kind of a cop-out, though.
Well, SOMETHING had to convince the old gal she really wasn't talking to her husband.
Average--better than the last few weeks but it still isn't there in my opinion. The first 30 minutes were boring. I don't care about Peter/Olivia and I probably will never care about them. The writers needed to work on the characters individually making me care about them before putting them together and expecting me to care about them as a couple. Don't get me wrong I have been known to enjoy a good romance--Scully and Mulder had me--but not this romantic pairing. Anna Torv and Joshua Jackson just don't sell it--they come of as brother and sister.
This season reminds me in a lot of ways of ENT's Xindi arc--a massive weapon, a race bent on destroying our world to save theirs, a third party with the Observers similiar to Daniels, weird physics a la the Expanse and now a romance shoehorned in that just gets in the way a la Trip/T'Pol. However, the Xindi arc handled its mythological elements better.
The Peter/Olivia stuff was just boring. The second hour was definitely more involving--I liked how they did some callbacks to the S1 episode--doesn't make it any more pointless of an episode but at least it contributes to the big picture which I always appreciate. And I like the idea that the effects aren't limited to just the other universe.
This season reminds me in a lot of ways of ENT's Xindi arc--a massive weapon, a race bent on destroying our world to save theirs, a third party with the Observers similiar to Daniels, weird physics a la the Expanse and now a romance shoehorned in that just gets in the way a la Trip/T'Pol. However, the Xindi arc handled its mythological elements better.
The Peter/Olivia stuff was just boring. The second hour was definitely more involving--I liked how they did some callbacks to the S1 episode--doesn't make it any more pointless of an episode but at least it contributes to the big picture which I always appreciate. And I like the idea that the effects aren't limited to just the other universe.
I was just thinking about this myself.
Really liked it tonight. I agree that the first half was slow but it picked up in the second half with the amber thing and the "mystery" on both sides was an interesting one. They are going overboard with the whole Peter/Olivia business.
I agree w/ much of startrekwatcher's review.
Peter/Olivia do nothing for me at all. I like the preview of next week's episode that seems to indicate that there's a deeper connection and something more than just the implausible romance that we're seeing at this point which may go a ways to redeeming this storyline.....however, I'm not counting on it.
Other than that.....I love that it's starting to affect our universe. I hated that they "talked her down" and I would have preferred something more consequential like the vortex actually opening up and them having to amber the building. As it was, it felt kind of a cheap way out of the episode.
All in all, average and better than the last several weeks but they either need to throw a twist in the Peter/Olivia thing like Walter bio-engineered them for a specific reason or something in order to validate why the writers choose what seems to be a very unnecessary romance between the two.
Peter/Olivia do nothing for me at all. I like the preview of next week's episode that seems to indicate that there's a deeper connection and something more than just the implausible romance that we're seeing at this point which may go a ways to redeeming this storyline.....however, I'm not counting on it.
Other than that.....I love that it's starting to affect our universe. I hated that they "talked her down" and I would have preferred something more consequential like the vortex actually opening up and them having to amber the building. As it was, it felt kind of a cheap way out of the episode.
All in all, average and better than the last several weeks but they either need to throw a twist in the Peter/Olivia thing like Walter bio-engineered them for a specific reason or something in order to validate why the writers choose what seems to be a very unnecessary romance between the two.
A weak Excellent.... I don't care for the romantic angst. But the rest was so much better than the last two episodes:
+ I really did like the main plot - an fresh take on the dual universes.
+ And they are definitely laying the groundwork for the "Amberization"... They have the tools now - and it will be used sooner or later.
+ I really did like the main plot - an fresh take on the dual universes.
+ And they are definitely laying the groundwork for the "Amberization"... They have the tools now - and it will be used sooner or later.
I loved it, just loved it. Considering what happened last week, and the blurb for this week, I was ready to cringe at some soap opera treatment, but for me, it wasn't like that at all. Maybe it's because I think I see where both Peter and Olivia are coming from. Every time I start thinking about one of them, "What a jerk!" I am reminded of their perspective, and why they're acting that way, and I can't be mad anymore. Fear and insecurity play a big role for both of them, and I get that.
The storyline with the widow, it really evoked a lot of emotion in me. The actress who played her-- such a natural and heartfelt performance. Plus all the Walter angst, how he fears becoming Walternate (just like he told William). The scene between Walter and Nina at the end was lovely.
I don't think our Olivia will get pregnant. a) She's not that careless and b) FauxLivia needs an angle to be a credible "do I want her?" choice. If our Liv plays it right, Peter will happily put FauxLivia out of his mind completely-- until he finds out about the pregnancy.
Great episode for me.
The storyline with the widow, it really evoked a lot of emotion in me. The actress who played her-- such a natural and heartfelt performance. Plus all the Walter angst, how he fears becoming Walternate (just like he told William). The scene between Walter and Nina at the end was lovely.
I don't think our Olivia will get pregnant. a) She's not that careless and b) FauxLivia needs an angle to be a credible "do I want her?" choice. If our Liv plays it right, Peter will happily put FauxLivia out of his mind completely-- until he finds out about the pregnancy.
Great episode for me.
Looking at the reviews, it seems that I fell asleep during the episode, then woke up for the closing act. But I didn't notice anything wrong. Yet there was something about Peter and Olivia as children?
I think this doesn't just say something about my health, but about the show's wriitng.
Everything said about quantum entanglement is complete gibberish. Not subtly wrong, not handwaving, not blue sky speculation, just total gibberish. It's so loopy it's not even wrong. When you write science fiction, the rationalizations are part of the writing. If you write decent sounding rationalizations that a generous soul could think, maybe, then it's well written rationalization. If the viewer can only sit stunned by the inanity of it all, it's bad writing.
Poor.
I think this doesn't just say something about my health, but about the show's wriitng.
Everything said about quantum entanglement is complete gibberish. Not subtly wrong, not handwaving, not blue sky speculation, just total gibberish. It's so loopy it's not even wrong. When you write science fiction, the rationalizations are part of the writing. If you write decent sounding rationalizations that a generous soul could think, maybe, then it's well written rationalization. If the viewer can only sit stunned by the inanity of it all, it's bad writing.
Poor.
This episode seems to suggest how the great machine may work. On a quantum level the mind and its desires seem to make it possible for the two worlds to merge. Put this with what has been revealed before, and it seems as if Peter's feeling for Olivia will be the ultimate key to how the machine will function. It will be interesting to watch how it all unfolds.
Didn’t they say the machine could create AND destroy, not create OR destroy? I think it will merge the worlds somehow, or parts of them. We’ll get one Olivia (“ours”) but she’ll be pregnant with Fauxlivia’s baby, because Peter wants Olivia but he’ll want his baby.
