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Freeform orders Marvel's Cloak and Dagger series

So does Tyrone really make someone weaker with his touch, or is that just misinterpretation?
 
Greg Cox said:
So, I'm a little confused. Why exactly did Tyrone throw the big game?
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I get the impression that he sees the consequences for the other team's players is far worse than they are for him because he has relative privilege. That being said, the flash to Billy makes me wonder if he didn't decide to make the shot but ended up missing it anyway. The whole thing had a somewhat ambiguous feel.

I think the more interesting question is who was forcing the ref to rig the game in his favor.
 
Alidar Jarok said:
That being said, the flash to Billy makes me wonder if he didn't decide to make the shot but ended up missing it anyway. The whole thing had a somewhat ambiguous feel.
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Tyrone's secretive little smile after missing the shot tells me he did it on purpose.
 
Christopher said:
Tyrone's secretive little smile after missing the shot tells me he did it on purpose.
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And his girfriend, who pays attention, also realized that he deliberately threw the game because of something involving the ref, even if she didn't know about the visions.

But thanks for the explanations. The dream-like nature of the visions made them a little hard to interpret, along with the fact that I don't know anything about basketball so it wasn't obvious to me that the ref was being unfair. (Plus, in all honestly, I was having trouble hearing the TV over our air conditioner, which we had going full blast!)
 
Christopher said:
I'm not certain, but I think his "fear touch" of the referee revealed that the ref had been paid/threatened by criminal elements to make sure that Tyrone's school won the game, which is why he was giving unfair calls in St. Sebastian's favor. Tyrone also saw that a few of the opposing players were really, really afraid of the consequences of losing, like maybe they'd be beaten by their parents or coach for it or something. So I think it was both to stymie the cheating ref and as an act of compassion to the rival players, who needed the victory more than he did. But I'm not sure if my reading is accurate.
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Ahhh...thanks for clarifying on that point. I was also confused.

Also, Tyrone is an idiot, or at the very least, very naive. He thought Evita snuck into his bedroom to return his jacket. :lol:
 
Okay, watched the first six episodes today (I'm saving last week's 7th episode for tomorrow).

Decent show, nowhere near as good as something like The Runaways, but it has it's upside. Cool setting. The vision sequences are usually interesting. A lot more drugs than I was expecting on this channel. I like how they're still trying to get the hang of their powers, and aren't masters yet. I'll try to post a bit more tomorrow, after watching the most recent episode, but I just wanted to comment that some of the writing on this show can be a bit too substandard or cliche-heavy, but one line in particular blew me away.

Looks like the valve should be ten meters thataway.
 
I think that this has been my favorite episode to date. Ty and Tandy finally seem to have a common purpose and are working together, not just for their own personal reasons but to help others (In this case, the Hess's), and that is what heroes are supposed to do. The ep didn't really move the story along much, but in terms finally bringing Cloak and Dagger together as a team, it worked great.
 
The last couple of episodes have been pretty good, especially the last one. A great introspective episode of not just Tyrone and Tandy, but also newly-introduced Ivan. I hope after the joint experience they had and the lengths Tyrone and Tandy went to get Ivan to come out of his catatonic state that he and Mina become important allies for the two teenagers.

I asked this awhile ago but I never got an answer: Are Cloak and Dagger's vision powers, including the hope and fear elements, from the comics or are they original to the series?
 
The vision thing is... sort of new?

It seems kind of based on the abilities they have in the comics in that when Cloak would swallow someone up into the Darkforce realm with his uh, cloak, when he would release them it would be as if they had just confronted the greatest fear. likewise, being struck by Dagger's, uhm, daggers there would sometimes be a euphoric effect. It would often depend upon the context in which they were deploying their powers.
 
Thanks. Sounds like the basic idea of fear and hope from the two was already there, but the overt visions are original to the show. Is that right?
 
Emh said:
Thanks. Sounds like the basic idea of fear and hope from the two was already there, but the overt visions are original to the show. Is that right?
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Yup.

Another thing they could do in the comics is that when they use their powers on a drug addict, that person would find themselves cleansed of their addiction.
 
This isn't marked as a spoiler thread, so...
I can't believe they literally fridged O'Reilly's boyfriend -- as in, almost exactly recreated the infamous "girlfriend stuffed in a refrigerator" comic-book scene that the "fridging" term is named for. That was a bit too on-the-nose for me. It's like they were deliberately doing a gender-swapped parody of the trope -- a love interest coming virtually out of nowhere (IMDb says he's been in four episodes but I have no memory of seeing him before), existing pretty much for the sole purpose of being gruesomely killed to motivate the protagonist. Heck, they even named the love interest "Fuchs," which could be taken as a dirty joke. The whole thing was hard to take seriously, which undermined its dramatic impact.
 
His role was smaller before this episode (we first saw him when they were fucking in his patrol car some episodes ago) but I agree that it was a jarring shift.

I love the show's origin for Tyrone's cloak. I'm relatively new to Mardi Gras Indians, having first learned about them David Simon's excellent Treme, so I'm happy to see more of them in this show and how that relates to Tyrone's family and history. I'm guessing that this particular aspect to the character is new to the show and not from the comics?
 
Emh said:
I love the show's origin for Tyrone's cloak. I'm relatively new to Mardi Gras Indians, having first learned about them David Simon's excellent Treme, so I'm happy to see more of them in this show and how that relates to Tyrone's family and history. I'm guessing that this particular aspect to the character is new to the show and not from the comics?
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That's correct. The whole New Orleans things is new to the show. (The old comics took place in NYC so they could run into Spider-Man and such.)
 
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