Fox News: 120% Of The Public Thinks Scientists May Falsify GW Data
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It's a spectrum thing. Somewhat agree would mean that you have more agreement than disagreement.
I'll admit, the words may not be perfect but in the context of the spectrum, it works. No one goes into one of those surveys confused about what it means. It works.
Mr Awe
A bit OT, but IIRC from my polling statistics class, 5 options was shown to have the most accurate results in responses which is why there isn't a further gradation of opinion options.
i never liked this kind of survey. #2 and #4 are BS picks IMO.
myself i either like it or not, or dont give a rats ass. if you really want to survey what people are thinking, ask them in the words i used. there's no wiggle room there!
Your point is well stated. However, I must point out that this is the same argument used by the other side of the debate. Many accuse those who push changes to reduce climate change of favoring their own profits over people. Many who push change the hardest are the same people who stand to make lots of money by selling the proposed solutions, at the expense of the economic damage the solutions will do to many.
When politics and money get involved the science takes a back seat. Unfortunately, since scientific conclusions are never absolute, it's easy for people to reinterpret the science to promote their politics and financial gain. Both sides can be and are accused of doing so, and there are certainly players on both sides who are guilty of using the science for their own gain. Only in the future, when we can look back and see what was done and what happened will we be able to say for sure who was right (assuming anyone is absolutely right).
And here I thought the comment would be somehow relevant.
As did I.
About yours.
RobertScorpio
Pariah
According to the radio show I listened to the other night ago, the Earth's climate is changing because the US/RUSSIA and ENGLAND are fighting an intergalactic war against aliens who are using methods to change our world's weather. Yeah, I know the Arrival, and even an episode of CHALLENGE OF THE SUPERFRIENDS, had this as a plot...but you never know!!!
Rob
Rob
Perhaps you could give us an example of such people. Much of the research in the field of climate change is being down through bodies such as universities, NASA and non-profit organisations and they aren't rolling the in money. Both matthunter and cultcross who post in TNZ both have direct experience in the research (one of whom also worked at CRU). Any money that they get as grants goes towards overall funding of the research centre - very very rarely does it go directly to the research and what grant money there is it much smaller that than what's being spent on the opposite side.
And they can't be anymore profits over people than current engergy providers. Perhaps you could speak to the people of Nigeria about how Shell behaves in their country or the mining companies in the U.S that are now no longer required to rehabillitate their mine sites (Bush 43 and the Republican controlled Congresss repealled the legislation that required it) and the list goes on.
As did I.
About yours.
Sorry to dissapoint you. But, pray tell, how is his comment relevant?
RobertScorpio
Pariah
I think its utter rubish that those countries that have caused this climate change (USA--RUSSIA--ENGLAND) and reaped power from doing so, are trying to stop the developing countries from doing the same. Fools errand, and rather racist to the core!
That's a problem and legitimate criticism, yes.
The counter-argument is, that the damage the USA and Europe did to the planet can't be reversed and whether or not India/China/etc decide to follow a smarter path the earth is never going to be what it was a couple centuries ago. The only question is if they want to worsen the problem or do something about it, especially considering that these countries are also going to be most affected by climate change.
Maybe there will be Katrina every other year, but overall, the USA will be able to get over anything that's coming. Bangladesh - not so much...
ASSuming your first statement is true, which it isn't, I find it funnier than hell that the VERY CITY named after the Kyoto Treaty cannot even comply with its stipulations. This carbon-global-green-man-made-weather-changing is nothing more than a BS money game.
I'm wrong?
Then why the big push for selling Carbon Offset Credits? It's a bullshit money shellgame that the likes of AlGore and the rest of his ilk are salivating at the chops to make loads of money.Unlike most of you who buy into this nonsense, I remember back in the 70's when we were being scared into believing there was an Ice Age around the corner.
DUH -- According to Earth's history, there have been at least three of them.
I'm not referring to the people doing the actual research. No, I'm referring to people selling carbon credits, or other "green" solutions designed to either actually help or at least make people feel better about themselves. For example, I read a story the other day about a new ATM-like machine installed at San Francisco International Airport where people can give this company money to offset the environmental harm caused by their flight.
ETA: The opinion that climate change is being pushed so hard by some is just to make money is bolstered when people look at Al Gore's house, or the 140 private planes and 2000 limos and the extravagant parties going on in Copenhagen.
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ASSuming your first statement is true, which it isn't, I find it funnier than hell that the VERY CITY named after the Kyoto Treaty cannot even comply with its stipulations. This carbon-global-green-man-made-weather-changing is nothing more than a BS money game.
I'm wrong?
Unlike most of you who buy into this nonsense, I remember back in the 70's when we were being scared into believing there was an Ice Age around the corner.
DUH -- According to Earth's history, there have been at least three of them.
What I find baffling is, that there are people who think humanity is not capable of doing anything to this planet. Look at all the species we've exterminated, look at all the gigantic amounts of forest we have destroyed, look at the deserts we have created, the seas we have drained (google Aral Sea...), the mountains we have moved etc. etc....
That anybody doubts whether or not we could do such a thing to this planet is absolutely incomprehensible to me.
I'm wrong?
So what you're saying is that the problem doesn't exist because some of the attempted solutions are bad?