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Fox Developing "Gotham" Young Jim Gordon Series

His comment is kind of ironic, because this actually looks a lot more comic booky and OTT than the Nolan movies. My biggest complaint about the Nolan movies was that went so realistic in how they approached Gotham. So far I am really liking the more stylistic approach they seem to be taking here.
 
He does say it's a heightened reality. He's either using "comic book" to mean "cartoony" and/or as synonymous with costumed characters, something a lot of people still do. People who are steeped in comic books may prefer not to have the term used like that, but it's not a big deal.
 
I hate that -- he says "It's not a comic-book world," and then goes on to describe it as pretty much exactly what a comic-book world is. I can't believe that even in this day and age when comics pretty much rule all media, that long-outdated stereotype of what comics are limited to being still has such currency.


So conflicted. Everything about it looks amazing, but then they have to go and bring up the Joker, and I so do not want that. You can do anyone else, but the Joker needs Batman.

I'm sure he's not going to be the Joker, he's just going to be the guy who will someday become the Joker, and his story arc will be leading him toward that endpoint, just like all the others.
It it was me, I'd introduce more than one potential Joker.
 
Agents of Nothing

Say what?:vulcan:

The show doesn't have to be about the Avengers popping up all the time, but just how SHIELD handles things (and least they're not trapped in angst like Smallville was, plus they've had the occasional appearance by a superhero.)

It was a reference to SHIELD no longer existing in the aftermath of The Winter Soldier. ;)
 
That's kind of an awkward trailer. And if these guys are going to become "the worst villains around," but "it's up to us to stop them," doesn't that kind of give away that they won't stop them?
 
Maybe I'm just being dense, but I can't figure out who "the business woman" is supposed to be. I got Catwoman and Penguin easy, but with her I'm drawing a blank...
 
It's a character named Fish Mooney, I kid you not. Not sure if it's a newly made character for the show or someone from the comics after I stopped reading.

ETA: Ninja'd!
 
Fish Mooney is the crime boss that Oswald Cobblepot (the future Penguin) works for. I'd imagine the "Fish" might be due to the "Penguin" connection. And I would conjecture that Cobblepot's arc through the series will be about rising through the ranks of Mooney's organization and eventually taking it over.
 
OK...odd that they'd throw her in with the other two though, no? I thought the whole point of that trailer was to flag up the Muppet Babies of Batman's rogues gallery.
 
OK...odd that they'd throw her in with the other two though, no?
No, it's not odd. It's a spotlight on the main villains introduced in season one, and she's one of them. It would be odd not to include her.

Right. Just because the show is inspired by Batman, that doesn't mean it's aimed solely at Batman fans. It's meant to be accessible to a more general audience that watches it only in terms of the show itself, with the comics references being subtler easter eggs woven into a mostly standalone crime narrative. Mooney is the dominant crime boss of Gotham City at the time the series is set, so of course she's going to be heavily featured.

After all, this is a prequel. Of course the main bad guys aren't going to be the Penguin and the Joker and the Riddler and Catwoman -- those people are still in their formative years, still going through the processes that will shape them into the characters we know, just as Lt. Jim Gordon and preteen Bruce Wayne are. So naturally the main forces of crime in the city are going to be different people than the ones we know. Frank Miller did no less in Batman: Year One when he introduced a bunch of characters we'd never seen before, characters who would eventually be replaced in the police, the government, and the criminal sphere by the characters we know from the "present day" series. So did Batman: Mask of the Phantasm. It shouldn't really be that surprising.
 
Interesting, though perhaps not surprising: the "Viewer Discretion Advised" tag at the close of this particular advert.
 
I could see that trailer potentially perking interest in viewers who might not be that interested in a "Batman show".
 
Fox does that for pretty much anything above TV-G. It really doesn't mean much if it's attached to a network show.
 
EW has new character posters here with brief descriptions of each character. Poison Ivy's real name is revealed to be Ivy Pepper in this version of the character rather than Pamela Isley.
 
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