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Forward Swept Wing K'Tinga Request

That looks pretty neat, but the engines are backwards.

The engines are correct. It's the rear hull and wings that are backwards.

They are now ... take a second look at Clawhammer's 8/21/2009 posting.

Okay...

I guess I didn't see that earlier version...

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"What do you mean the engines are on backwards?!"

"Well then Full Speed Astern, you son of a motherless targ!!!"
 
The engines are correct. It's the rear hull and wings that are backwards.

They are now ... take a second look at Clawhammer's 8/21/2009 posting.

Okay...

I guess I didn't see that earlier version...

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"What do you mean the engines are on backwards?!"

"Well then Full Speed Astern, you son of a motherless targ!!!"

[shrugs]
Don't worry, it was an easy mistake. My lawyers insisted I defend my honor, however. Damn their merciless hides.
 
Since I'm not sure if what I said was exactly clear regarding the with of the centerbody at the front of the wing and the rear of the wing

ktingafsw.gif


Note the red lines. Basically I want the mid-section of the wing to be widened out at the front to where the red line is on the front (on both sides obviously), and narrowed down to where the red-lines are on the back (on both sides obviously)


CuttingEdge100
 
Since I'm not sure if what I said was exactly clear regarding the with of the centerbody at the front of the wing and the rear of the wing

ktingafsw.gif


Note the red lines. Basically I want the mid-section of the wing to be widened out at the front to where the red line is on the front (on both sides obviously), and narrowed down to where the red-lines are on the back (on both sides obviously)


CuttingEdge100

To make that work, you might try reversing the center rear hull, but still keep the wings swept forward...
 
The Real Foxbat,

To make that work, you might try reversing the center rear hull, but still keep the wings swept forward...

Well, I would try that, but

- I'm really not all that good with graphic art

- If I reversed it, it actually wouldn't look the way I wanted either (I had thought about it, but it wouldn't work)


CuttingEdge100
 
I recently saw a thread in which somebody made a model of a FSW K'Tinga. I wonder if anybody interested in that would be willing to work on this?
 
I have just recently drawn up a FSW K'Tinga. It isn't anything spectacular (I didn't get the exact proportions right, but this is what I was going for)

fswktinga001.jpg


Note how the forward part of the centerbody was narrower in the front to compensate for the Forward-Swept Wing?

Can someone take this kind of design and you know make it look like a blueprint (a higher quality model)


Helen
 
I could ***MAYBE*** come up with something using some of Vance's stuff as a base. The result would be a Forward Swept Wing version of a classic D-7, not a K'Tinga...
 
The Real Foxbat,

I could ***MAYBE*** come up with something using some of Vance's stuff as a base. The result would be a Forward Swept Wing version of a classic D-7, not a K'Tinga...

Sounds like a good idea. I like both designs


CuttingEdge100
 
The Real Foxbat,

Tell me if and when you plan to proceed with the drawing


Starscape,

- Wingspan appears a bit too large compared to the standard D-7/K'Tinga, granted in my drawing I kind of made that drawing error too, but you seemed to have further accentuated it.

- The shape of the front of the centerbody has too much "curve" to it. Needs to be flatter

- The surface detail on the centerbody is too high. The surface detail/deflector-gridding seems too "compressed"

- Pylons don't have any sweep-back and the nacelle appears to have been moved further aft on the pylon

It definitely has that blueprint look about it though, which I like.
 
I'm wondering should the neck-boom be shorter? I drew it shorter on my drawing, which was actually an accident, but I think it actually looks better proportions-wise.


CuttingEdge100
 
I manip'ed the K'Tinga plans from the Star Trek: Fact Files to get this:

http://www.starscape.org.uk/trekbbs/fsw_ktinga2.png

Now that looks awesome :techman: :) :klingon: :rommie:

Thanks. :bolian:

- Wingspan appears a bit too large compared to the standard D-7/K'Tinga, granted in my drawing I kind of made that drawing error too, but you seemed to have further accentuated it.
It's about the same wingspan (nacelle-to-nacelle) as the K'Tinga, but since the centre-body is narrower that makes each wing proportionally wider.

And no it's not as bad as on your drawing. ;)

- The shape of the front of the centerbody has too much "curve" to it. Needs to be flatter

- The surface detail on the centerbody is too high. The surface detail/deflector-gridding seems too "compressed"
That's because I compressed the centre-body to get the width as requested.

- Pylons don't have any sweep-back and the nacelle appears to have been moved further aft on the pylon
Well, there is some back-sweep to the pylons and the forward edge of the pylons attach at the same point as on the K'Tinga.

It definitely has that blueprint look about it though, which I like.

Ok, I guess you'd like some modifications made... ;)
 
The Real Foxbat,

Tell me if and when you plan to proceed with the drawing

Umm... Right now...

I'm still the noobest of the noob at this sort of thing, so it takes me a while...

I wasn't sure which approach to take on this...

In this drawing I reduced the width on the front of the engineering hull to keep the width of the warp nacelles the same...

fsw_d7_01.png


In this drawing I maintained the width on the front of the engineering hull and expanded the rear of the engineering hull to fit the wings...

fsw_d7_02.png


Both drawings based on Vance's Klingon D-7 over at Pixel Sagas...
 
Starscape,

It's about the same wingspan (nacelle-to-nacelle) as the K'Tinga, but since the centre-body is narrower that makes each wing proportionally wider.

Hmmm... I see your point.

That's because I compressed the centre-body to get the width as requested.

Understood. You do plan to reduce the curvature of the centerbody right?

Ok, I guess you'd like some modifications made... ;)

How'd you guess :lol: ?

- Flatten out the curve of the centerbody
- Sweep the pylon backward instead of forward
- Re-position the nacelles to roughly the same position on the pylon as on the K'Tinga


CuttingEdge100
 
The Real Foxbat,

Tell me if and when you plan to proceed with the drawing

Umm... Right now...

I'm still the noobest of the noob at this sort of thing, so it takes me a while...

I wasn't sure which approach to take on this...

In this drawing I reduced the width on the front of the engineering hull to keep the width of the warp nacelles the same...

fsw_d7_01.png


In this drawing I maintained the width on the front of the engineering hull and expanded the rear of the engineering hull to fit the wings...

fsw_d7_02.png


Both drawings based on Vance's Klingon D-7 over at Pixel Sagas...

Very nice work there :) :techman:
 
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