Forward Swept Wing K'Tinga Request

Discussion in 'Fan Art' started by CuttingEdge100, Aug 21, 2009.

  1. CuttingEdge100

    CuttingEdge100 Commodore Commodore

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    Starscape,

    Yes

    Yes, the whole wing would be longer. I want the width at the front and back of the centerbody to be the same. I'm happy with that

    I like the shape of the hammerhead. I wouldn't mind covering the vents on the side of the hammerhead (as I don't see what purpose they serve and, and I prefer to avoid excessive surface detail)


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  2. CuttingEdge100

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    Are you still there?
     
  3. Starscape

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    Yeah, still here. Sorry, been lacking some self-motivation lately. :borg:

    Anyway... the old k't'inga plans were getting a little too stetched-out with all the manip'ing so I decided to draw things from scratch (well, most of it is a modified "tracing").

    So, starting with the FSW-k't'inga, I've...

    - increased the width of the wings so that (at the distance between the widest part of the centerbody and start of the nacelle pylons) they're the same width as the centerbody (at it's widest point).

    - increased the length of the centerbody by 20% and also increased the length of the nacelle pylons by 20% and therefore increased the chordwise width of the wings.

    - appropriately scaled the bridge section(s) so that they're 15% larger than those on the K't'inga.

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  4. Kaiser

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    Looks cool :) :techman:
     
  5. CuttingEdge100

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  6. CuttingEdge100

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    Yeah, I know the feeling. Not fun


    Well, you did exactly as I asked, so I can't fault you here.

    Looking at the design though, I think the wingspan might actually be too much. I'm thinking a wingspan between the current span, and the span used in Page #3, Post #54.

    I like it. I'm happy with it

    The bridge design just isn't suitable for this new design. I'm thinking of scaling up the main bridge dome (the wide ovalized forward section of the bridge, no the tall dome on the aft of the bridge) back to the proportions of the K'Tinga, but deleting the aft section of the bridge (He tall skinny section that looks like a silo capped with a dome). It would be much more streamlined and proportional.

    Did you resize the hammerhead itself at all? Because I was happy with it as it was.

    I have a few other ideas. I'm thinking of printing out the drawing, and draw up a list of recommendations.


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  7. Starscape

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    Okay, I'll try and get those changes up tomorrow.

    Nope, it's the same size. The only change is that it's more symmetrical, the k't'inga plans were a little off in that regard.


    Good idea, actually seeing the required changes is a lot of help. :bolian:
     
  8. Kaiser

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    what was said there? :confused:

    hopefully nothing rude or bad
     
  9. Starscape

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    ^^ Probably just a double or mistaken post... it happens. ;)

    Update:

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    - I've split the difference between the winspans of the last two designs to give the above wingspan.

    - And the bridge section is has now been returned to its in-scale size.



    As an aside, the zoom-in to the K't'inga featured in TMP has always lead me to believe the bridge was in the tower behind the oval... not that it matters for this design. :)
     
  10. Kaiser

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    ok good i was worried there for awile :)
     
  11. CuttingEdge100

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    I wouldn't mind the neck being made thicker like this.

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    As for the nacelles I think they should be scaled up back to the proportional size they were on the K'Tinga


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  12. Starscape

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    Okay, I'll get on it.

    I didn't change those. :lol: I've listed all the changes I've made to get from the fsw-k't'inga to this design. Everything else is remains at the same relative proportions as the fsw-k't'inga.
     
  13. Starscape

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    And here's the thick-necked version:

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  14. CuttingEdge100

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    I did not know the nacelles were the same length. Fascinating
     
  15. CuttingEdge100

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    I'm going to draw up some revisions to the vessel's neck. Mostly proportion related items.

    When I'm done I'll post them
     
  16. CuttingEdge100

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    I've decided to shorten the vessel's neck.

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    In the drawing, I have illustrated three numbered areas

    1.) Is the base of the neck, where it connects onto the ship's centerbody/hull
    2.) A part of the neck that forms out of the base that it thicker than the bulk of the neck
    3.) The thinner section of the neck.

    Basically, I don't want to change section 1, I want to adjust sections 2 and 3 to what they are in the drawing I just scanned in.
     
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  17. Starscape

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    ^^ Done:

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  18. CuttingEdge100

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    One small revision request

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    REQUESTED REVISION
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    I drew it out before scanning it in so it shouldn't be too hard. I made the neck a tiny bit longer as shown. The size of everything else should be the same.

    With that done, everything is pretty much set up for a profile/side-view and detailing


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  19. Starscape

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    Okay, here it is:

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    Do you have any significant changes in mind, e.g. up-swept wings?
     
  20. CuttingEdge100

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    Starscape,

    I was thinking of using a somewhat revised nacelle. Same length and everything, just re-contoured. I'm not sure about anything else.

    I'll think about it, though