Forum for haters of JJ's Star Trek

[Therin of Andor]

Not seeing a whole lot of difference here...

Awww, you forgot to label the secret TOS ingredient for warp power: the horta eggs harnessed to the engine.

Why is it called "JJ's Star Trek", didn't a Star Trek Fan write it? Isn't that where the true creation of it lies, with the writers?

Gene Roddenberry's "Star Trek".

Harve Bennett's "Star Trek" movies.

Berman & Braga.

Named for the executive producer in charge; the decision-maker; custodian of the canon.

 

[thumbtack]

But complaining on the internet works. It really, really does.










Really.

 

[shapeshifter]

Why is it called "JJ's Star Trek", didn't a Star Trek Fan write it? Isn't that where the true creation of it lies, with the writers?

Gene Roddenberry's "Star Trek".

Harve Bennett's "Star Trek" movies.

Berman & Braga.

Named for the executive producer in charge; the decision-maker; custodian of the canon.

Ah, yes. Thanks.

KingDaniel, other similarities in your side-by-side comparison img are stairways leading to railed catwalks with doorways. The two really are spot on same but different. If only the exterior wasn't so damned ugly.

 

[Captain Mike]

The problem is, most people don't appear to care.

Most people who like and understand Star Trek liked the last movie. We care more than enough - we just don't share your opinion that anything is wrong.

That is what I like about and what the "Pro-JJTREK fans" on this board like to do, Just because you didn't like JJTREK, you obviously don't understand what Str Trek is all about. Hey after watching it constantly since I was about 5 years old till now,with much love to my grandmother for having it on in the afternoon so I could watch it with her, I think I can safely say I understand what the show and idea are all about.

Not seeing a whole lot of difference here...

Get new glasses. In fact, the Wonka room with its big multicolored plastic vessels looks a lot more like the engine room of Picard's Enterprise.

I would have at least liked Burton's Wonka idea than the "brewery room" we got.

*****pic I disagree with and will not repost****

And how the hell can you say they are the same fucking thing? The "brewery room" is by far less sleek and more ugly than what they devised and built for the 60's television show!!!!
At least the 60's version had me utilizing my imagination!

 

[Dukhat]

Are people still complaining about the brewery? Jesus H. Christ, get the hell over it already.

 

[Ghost Bones]

Doesn't really reflect well on this place does it, knocking a load of other people for holding a perfectly reasonable opinion.

Star Trek XI was complete fucking shit after all. Fancy Kirk meeting Spock Prime and Scotty by huge coincidence like that. Not only are they on the same planet, but Spock had to completely forgot about the Enterprise having a brig.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Did you actually read the forum? People not liking a movie is just fine. Building a virtual shrine of unimaginative JJ and Nimoy trolling is above and beyond.

 

[Captain Mike]

Did you actually read the forum? People not liking a movie is just fine. Building a virtual shrine of unimaginative JJ and Nimoy trolling is above and beyond.

I found it humorous. Although I dislike all if not most of Abrams productions, I find i agree with some of the posts. And Nimoy's likability factor took a direct hit and definitely went down in my eyes after his, Pine's and Quinto's appearance on SNL. In my eyes the skit was NOT funny or intended to be!

 

[M'Sharak]

Doesn't really reflect well on this place does it, knocking a load of other people for holding a perfectly reasonable opinion.

Star Trek XI was complete fucking shit after all. <snip>

Speaking of perfectly reasonable opinions...

 

[Mr_Homn]

Did you actually read the forum? People not liking a movie is just fine. Building a virtual shrine of unimaginative JJ and Nimoy trolling is above and beyond.

well having 12,000 posts on a star trek forum would be considered above and beyond by most

hell, posting on a star trek forum at all would be considered "above and beyond" by many...

but i guess that much time spent on forums makes it easy to lose perspective... i don't understand why building their own forum to talk about this type of thing amongst themselves would be considered in any way undesirable by anyone here.

 

[UFO]

Did you actually read the forum? People not liking a movie is just fine. Building a virtual shrine of unimaginative JJ and Nimoy trolling is above and beyond.

... Nimoy's likability factor took a direct hit and definitely went down in my eyes after his, Pine's and Quinto's appearance on SNL. In my eyes the skit was NOT funny or intended to be!

(1) Is it trolling if the site is set up for that sort of thing? Just wondering.

(2) Nimoy's likability certainly did take a hit! That is part of STXI tainting previous Trek. It was completely unnecessary. I used to think he had more class. As you can tell, I'm over it now though.

 

[Kelso]

I found it humorous. Although I dislike all if not most of Abrams productions, I find i agree with some of the posts. And Nimoy's likability factor took a direct hit and definitely went down in my eyes after his, Pine's and Quinto's appearance on SNL. In my eyes the skit was NOT funny or intended to be!

I thought it was pretty funny.

 

[Captain Mike]

I found it humorous. Although I dislike all if not most of Abrams productions, I find i agree with some of the posts. And Nimoy's likability factor took a direct hit and definitely went down in my eyes after his, Pine's and Quinto's appearance on SNL. In my eyes the skit was NOT funny or intended to be!

I thought it was pretty funny.

Of course you did. You are PRO Abrams all the way....

 

[M'Sharak]

I found it humorous. Although I dislike all if not most of Abrams productions, I find i agree with some of the posts. And Nimoy's likability factor took a direct hit and definitely went down in my eyes after his, Pine's and Quinto's appearance on SNL. In my eyes the skit was NOT funny or intended to be!

I thought it was pretty funny.

Of course you did. You are PRO Abrams all the way....

Deep breaths, Mikey.

If you cannot address the post without taking a swipe at the poster, perhaps it would be a good idea for you to find something else to do for a while. Go for a walk, maybe - get some fresh air and lose the hostility.

 

[Captain Mike]

I thought it was pretty funny.

Of course you did. You are PRO Abrams all the way....

Deep breaths, Mikey.

If you cannot address the post without taking a swipe at the poster, perhaps it would be a good idea for you to find something else to do for a while. Go for a walk, maybe - get some fresh air and lose the hostility.

What hostility? I just stated from previous posts of his that he has made in other treads, that he likes this movie and most of what Abrams produces. Other than the rolling eyes I see no problem with that. Unlike some other remarks made by others who like the thing to yet again others who do not.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Abrams is making Star Trek that I like a lot, so I can be of generally cheerful disposition about this. The whole future course of the Franchise is being set because the expectations of the mass audience that makes money for the studio are being redefined - just as, for example, Russell Davies has completely redefined Doctor Who for a new generation such that it will never return to being the kind of low-budget, slapdash video kid's show that it once was.

I suppose that if I wanted either property to back up and become something that it used to be I'd be bitter, because that's clearly never going to happen - but that's not what I want, so I'm happy.

 

[Dukhat]

Nimoy's likability certainly did take a hit! That is part of STXI tainting previous Trek. It was completely unnecessary. I used to think he had more class. As you can tell, I'm over it now though.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by this statement. Are you saying that Nimoy's "likability" took a hit with the few people who post on that forum? If that's the case, then I suppose you're right, as far as those few person's demented line of thinking goes. Or are you saying that Nimoy's "likability" took a hit with the general viewing public and Trek fandom in general (which the TrekBBS is not indicative of)? If that's the case, then I'm afraid you're mistaken.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Or are you saying that Nimoy's "likability" took a hit with the general viewing public and Trek fandom in general (which the TrekBBS is not indicative of)? If that's the case, then I'm afraid you're mistaken.

Exactly.

This is what most people who think about it at all think of trekkies complaining about Abrams, Nimoy et al:

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02LgdXVkXgM[/yt]

People laugh at this because they recognize the truth in it.

 

[UFO]

Nimoy's likability certainly did take a hit! That is part of STXI tainting previous Trek. It was completely unnecessary. I used to think he had more class. As you can tell, I'm over it now though.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by this statement. Are you saying that Nimoy's "likability" took a hit with the few people who post on that forum? If that's the case, then I suppose you're right, as far as those few person's demented line of thinking goes.

Sorry, I should have qualified that comment the same way Captain Mike did, ie. as my opinion and perhaps that of anyone who objected to the film for perfectly legitmate reasons. I don't know if the people on that forum are "demented" or if they just can't quite put their finger on what they really don't like about STXI, but they are allowed to have their opinions regardless of what anyone here might think of them.

Or are you saying that Nimoy's "likability" took a hit with the general viewing public and Trek fandom in general (which the TrekBBS is not indicative of)? If that's the case, then I'm afraid you're mistaken.

Exactly.

This is what most people who think about it at all think of trekkies complaining about Abrams, Nimoy et al:

*** Reasonably funny satire omitted ***

People laugh at this because they recognize the truth in it.

Something only has to be partially true to be the object of witty satire. Often it relies on exaggeration for effect. Oh, and no-one called anyone a dickhead that I can recall. No, potentially implying it isn't the same thing.

My objection to Nimoy's comment is not directly related to my complaints about STXI, except to say both lacked something I would have hoped for.

 

[horatio83]

I thought it was pretty funny.

Of course you did. You are PRO Abrams all the way....

Deep breaths, Mikey.

If you cannot address the post without taking a swipe at the poster, perhaps it would be a good idea for you to find something else to do for a while. Go for a walk, maybe - get some fresh air and lose the hostility.

Says the guys who posts stuff like that. Don't throw stones when you are sitting in the glasshouse.

Doesn't really reflect well on this place does it, knocking a load of other people for holding a perfectly reasonable opinion.

Star Trek XI was complete fucking shit after all. <snip>

Speaking of perfectly reasonable opinions...