Forget that TTN or VGD comic...
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Whilst IDW are keener to set up there own thing I wouldn't rule it out completely. That article has basically picked out the worst bits of an ''interview'' done on IDW's message boards with the new editor who by his admission doesn't really know what is and isn't possible in terms of what IDW can do post-Nemesis and how much he wants to tie in with Pocket.
There could also be rights issues with using Pocket's original characters.
As far as I know, most of DC's non-Big Seven characters had already been introduced in TOS or TAS, and those that hadn't were created by DC instead of Pocket.
And that doesn't even include licensing the rights to the design of the Titan. Their lawyers would need to figure out who gets royalties. Paramount? Pocket? Sean?
As far as I know, most of DC's non-Big Seven characters had already been introduced in TOS or TAS, and those that hadn't were created by DC instead of Pocket.
And that doesn't even include licensing the rights to the design of the Titan. Their lawyers would need to figure out who gets royalties. Paramount? Pocket? Sean?
That interview wasn't ruling out use of TTN or VGD at all. The most likely way we'd see them used, though, is if Mangel & Martin or David Mack decided to pitch a ST comic tale to IDW.
No there's not. The only rights issues involves Larry Niven's kzinti (TAS), IIRC, since he only intended to "lend" them out and wasn't expecting them to become recurring characters in the ST Universe (unless he was writing them). But it was always a grey area. Before Filmation disbanded, there were a few problems with TAS tie-ins like Power and Peter Pan Records using renderings of Arex and M'Ress.
But all tie-in novelists sign over their rights to original ST novel characters in their stories when they sign their contracts. CBS owns all the characters outright, and if Paula Block approves the use, then IDW could use them. However, I would actually anticipate IDW seeking an actual story contribution from the novelist creator, unless it was a simple cameo salute to a certain character.
I'm sure Sean signed over any claim to the design when he entered the contest. USS Titan belongs to CBS, but Sean would probably receive a credit if the design was featured in a Titan comic.
No there's not. The only rights issues involves Larry Niven's kzinti (TAS), IIRC, since he only intended to "lend" them out and wasn't expecting them to become recurring characters in the ST Universe (unless he was writing them). But it was always a grey area. Before Filmation disbanded, there were a few problems with TAS tie-ins like Power and Peter Pan Records using renderings of Arex and M'Ress.
But all tie-in novelists sign over their rights to original ST novel characters in their stories when they sign their contracts. CBS owns all the characters outright, and if Paula Block approves the use, then IDW could use them. However, I would actually anticipate IDW seeking an actual story contribution from the novelist creator, unless it was a simple cameo salute to a certain character.
I'm sure Sean signed over any claim to the design when he entered the contest. USS Titan belongs to CBS, but Sean would probably receive a credit if the design was featured in a Titan comic.
I'd rather see more New Frontier comics.
"non-official canon" (books)
"quasi-canonical" (other comics)
WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!
Please God, someone teach this man what the hell canon means.
"quasi-canonical" (other comics)
WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!
Please God, someone teach this man what the hell canon means.
That was more rhetorical, as I don't know if (and quite doubt it) Andrew Steven Harris reads this board.
Unless you thought I meant me. Which I well understand what canon is, which was why I was all WTF at his use of the term with regard to books and comics.
Why not? Dan Taylor does/did.
As I said earlier, it was one of the contest rules that the chosen design would belong to CBS/Paramount.
"Telling their own stories" has worked out so well for them so far hasn't it?
The Space Between, I give 2 out of 5 stars due to sloppy and erratic storytelling that jumped all over the place, and as a result made little sense.
Klingons: Blood Will Tell, I give a 3 1/2 out of 5. The notion of seeing those old TOS episodesfrom the Klingon persective was interesting, and had a very strong start with the "Errand of Mercy" and "The Trouble With Tribbles" crossovers, but the "Day of the Dove" and "Friday's Child" stories were extermely weak. The conclusion, which I read today, was good enough to raise my rating for the series from 3 to 3 1/2.
I give the first issue of Year Four a 3. It would be a 4, except for signs of the same jumpy story telling (although not nearly as bad as TSB). At this point Y4 (and anything else written by David Tischman) is on an issue-by-issue basis for me. Comics are too expensive these days to buy stories you won't (or think you might not) enjoy. If I hear good things about it on this board and elsewhere, I'll pick it up. If not, the $$ goes elsewhere.
Their upcoming TNG mini, "Intelligence Gathering", sounds less than interesting. Probability Factor has an interesting premise, but if it is written by Tischman, I'll pass.
I love Pocket's Titan crew so much that I wouldn't be willing to spend the $$ on a new crew from IDW. However if they get Martin and Mangels to a Titan comic, or David Mack to do a Vanguard comic, or PAD or KRAD doing anything they want, I will be SOOO there. My money will be on the table for those sight unseen and review unread. And I've read in few places that Scott Tipton wants to "Pick up where DS9 left off". Been there, done that, not interested in another approach.
The Space Between, I give 2 out of 5 stars due to sloppy and erratic storytelling that jumped all over the place, and as a result made little sense.
Klingons: Blood Will Tell, I give a 3 1/2 out of 5. The notion of seeing those old TOS episodesfrom the Klingon persective was interesting, and had a very strong start with the "Errand of Mercy" and "The Trouble With Tribbles" crossovers, but the "Day of the Dove" and "Friday's Child" stories were extermely weak. The conclusion, which I read today, was good enough to raise my rating for the series from 3 to 3 1/2.
I give the first issue of Year Four a 3. It would be a 4, except for signs of the same jumpy story telling (although not nearly as bad as TSB). At this point Y4 (and anything else written by David Tischman) is on an issue-by-issue basis for me. Comics are too expensive these days to buy stories you won't (or think you might not) enjoy. If I hear good things about it on this board and elsewhere, I'll pick it up. If not, the $$ goes elsewhere.
Their upcoming TNG mini, "Intelligence Gathering", sounds less than interesting. Probability Factor has an interesting premise, but if it is written by Tischman, I'll pass.
I love Pocket's Titan crew so much that I wouldn't be willing to spend the $$ on a new crew from IDW. However if they get Martin and Mangels to a Titan comic, or David Mack to do a Vanguard comic, or PAD or KRAD doing anything they want, I will be SOOO there. My money will be on the table for those sight unseen and review unread. And I've read in few places that Scott Tipton wants to "Pick up where DS9 left off". Been there, done that, not interested in another approach.
Really? I've seen Dan Taylor, Andrew Harris and David Tischman say that, can't recall either Tipton ever talking about DS9. But if they have, bring it on, as long as they DO work within the Pocket DS9 relaunch the Tiptons could add some great stuff.
There wasn't actually a "Friday's Child" issue of Blood Will Tell, there was a "Private Little War" one though and it was very good, better I'd say than the "Errand of Mercy" issue. I've enjoyed the entire series though so have a lot of faith in the Tipton's, enough that I have every expectation than Intelligence Gathering will be pretty good.
I agree with your concerns about Tischman's writing, though so far Year Four has been pretty good. Though it will take a while for me not to be surprised in getting a story that entirely makes sense from him after the fiasco of The Space Between.
I don’t think you can blame IDW for wanting to make their own mark on the Trekverse with their own people. And I don’t think they’ve really done that bad so far, The Space Between was messy but most of the individual issues were quite interesting. Blood Will Tell has been excellent throughout. Year Four is off to a good start. The soon to start Alien Spotlight sounds pretty interesting. And there’s a D.C Fontana series on the horizon.
I’d love to see some of the Pocket people get to add to Pocket projects in comic form. I hope that will happen in the not to distant future but also realise IDW want to find their feet and not feel like the novelverse’s little pet.
While I love "Klingons: Blood Will Tell," I admit that I was less than impressed with "The Space Between" and "Year 4," and mainly because of the very condensed writing and artwork that didn't exactly grab me (it just boils down to personal preference--I like the creative team of the Tiptons and Messina better). Still, I think IDW is doing an overall good job with the Trek license and I like the direction they're taking it in.
I don't have a problem at all with the comics not sharing the same continuity with the novels because it won't stop me from buying both. Back when DC had the Trek license, that's pretty much how it was for me anyway.
I don't have a problem at all with the comics not sharing the same continuity with the novels because it won't stop me from buying both. Back when DC had the Trek license, that's pretty much how it was for me anyway.
I read the third and fourth issues of TSB and despite the jumpy writting, I thought that it had some pretty good ideas behind it even if execution could use some work. As for BWT, I only read the first issue but if the rest of the series is as good, I will almost certainly finish it and pick up anything else that team does.
ETA: As for them doing there own thing, it is deffinitely understandable, they probably just want to get themselfs by on their own stuff before they start using other peoples. As for a post DS9 series, I would be curious to pick it up, just to see a different take on a post series setting.
ETA: As for them doing there own thing, it is deffinitely understandable, they probably just want to get themselfs by on their own stuff before they start using other peoples. As for a post DS9 series, I would be curious to pick it up, just to see a different take on a post series setting.
The main reason that WildStorm had so many crossovers with Pocket Books was that the same known ST writers sought out projects with both publishers. IDW sounds like it already has its own pool of trusted comic writers. If a Pocket author wants to pitch to IDW I'm sure they be most welcome, but they'd be competing for spots like all the IDW teams.
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