Flash Forward: "White to Play" 10/1 - Grading & Discussion
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Interesting. Kind of the theme of the series, I guess!
My wife and I have had the same thought as well. Knowing, at least thinking he knows when he is going to die may make him do some pretty crazy stuff. Can't wait to find out, is it Thursday yet?
Look at it from the opposite context. She asks the ultrasound lady about the baby's sex to confirm what she'd already seen in her flashforward. When she smiles it's the realization that every aspect of her vision was true. She's predestined to ask.
And yes, I too suspect that her baby is Demitri's. They seem to be very comfortable with each other.
You obviously didn't read the Heroes threads from last season...there weren't very many "above average" or "excellent" ratings to be had there. But you're generally right though--the ratings do skew way too positive.
I loved this episode, but still gave it an "above average"--there has to be room for the grand slam, top-tier "holy crap" episodes, which IMO, this wasn't.
I liked that they're moving the story along, and I admit to being a sucker for the surprise reveals, like Detective Noh hearing about his own death before April 29, 2010 and Charlie knowing who D. Gibbons was. I just hope the resolutions are as good.
Even the comic relief had me in stitches...blacking out on the toilet and seeing yourself on the toilet. And then having to resuscitate someone whose face was in the urinal...nice.
Judging by small town Utah only Major cities like Los Angeles and London suffered from chaos. And it looked like an entire National Guard Corp deployed to Los Angeles by all the helicopters they had flying around. My guess with SSBNs untouched you are still hesitant to directly take on the US.
Oh, I know. My flashforward would be pretty much the same.
I still found his flashforward really funny.
Had to be confusing for him to be on the can, flashforward to being on the can, and then wake up on the can.
Yeah, and him giving CPR to the guy who was just sucking piss was funny.
At his age, and mine, we should all be so regular.
Gave it an Above Average.
This episode kept the overall story moving along without giving away too much yet. At least they are giving little tidbits here and there, however, as I hate when a show gives the viewer nothing to go on except more questions. I've never watched Lost, but it seems that's what that show does.
I also agree that the wife's vision may be a predestination paradox. It was also reinforced with that quote by the doll guy. This has to be a major part of the show, as already you have most of the main characters focusing on the visions. I was not entirely shocked that John Cho's character isn't supposed to make it to the 'flash forward' date. I also thought that from watching the flash-forward of the future-pregnant woman, it seemed like the baby might have died or something. I just got that feeling. Or maybe she was just upset because of the other theory mentioned before, that it's Cho's baby, and he's been dead for a month by that point.
One of my complaints from the pilot was that so little destruction was shown after the FBI agent made it back to the office. Thankfully they made up for it this episode, with exterior shots of damaged LA.
The kid is also really annoying. Her only purpose is to give these big hints, it seems. Other than that she's really distracting.
This episode kept the overall story moving along without giving away too much yet. At least they are giving little tidbits here and there, however, as I hate when a show gives the viewer nothing to go on except more questions. I've never watched Lost, but it seems that's what that show does.
I also agree that the wife's vision may be a predestination paradox. It was also reinforced with that quote by the doll guy. This has to be a major part of the show, as already you have most of the main characters focusing on the visions. I was not entirely shocked that John Cho's character isn't supposed to make it to the 'flash forward' date. I also thought that from watching the flash-forward of the future-pregnant woman, it seemed like the baby might have died or something. I just got that feeling. Or maybe she was just upset because of the other theory mentioned before, that it's Cho's baby, and he's been dead for a month by that point.
One of my complaints from the pilot was that so little destruction was shown after the FBI agent made it back to the office. Thankfully they made up for it this episode, with exterior shots of damaged LA.
The kid is also really annoying. Her only purpose is to give these big hints, it seems. Other than that she's really distracting.
Perhaps they're all NHL referees.
Anyway, I give it an above average. I liked it much more than the pilot, even though I still don't like the main character. He's just so insufferably bland! At least someone like Matthew Fox can entertain by overacting on occasion... yeesh.
The rest of the cast seems pretty good, though, I have to say.
Good they worked for you.
While I found the visual of the city impressive, if it left me asking why would there be that much destruction, then it clearly didn't work for me. Saying no explanation is needed doesn't work either.
overall the show has been ok. I'd rather there be more substance and less family drama of "oh my wife is going to leave me and I'm going to start drinking again." While the mystery of the blackout piques my interest, the individual stories are somewhat boring to me.
It stays on the dvr for now though.
I think so too.
Average.
Waaaay too much exposition from the first episode. Really felt like they were dumbing it down to the audience.
The homeland security person was silly. Why must american shows include government officials that are imbeciles? The flashforward-on-the-can story is silly, but I have a feeling in the back of my mind it's gonna play a bigger part. Also the scene was done very badly - as soon as humour is introduced, acting and music go out the window (it's the only time in the episode the music goes all walt disney).
Still, the 2nd observer, Cho's flashforward-death and the last line of the episode keeps me hooked.
Would you really wanna take a chopper ride to Utah after what happened???
Waaaay too much exposition from the first episode. Really felt like they were dumbing it down to the audience.
The homeland security person was silly. Why must american shows include government officials that are imbeciles? The flashforward-on-the-can story is silly, but I have a feeling in the back of my mind it's gonna play a bigger part. Also the scene was done very badly - as soon as humour is introduced, acting and music go out the window (it's the only time in the episode the music goes all walt disney).
Still, the 2nd observer, Cho's flashforward-death and the last line of the episode keeps me hooked.
Would you really wanna take a chopper ride to Utah after what happened???
No, it doesn't. But unlike you, I do watch the show.
I also thought that Demetri will be the father. Especially when she started crying in her vision.
And the fetus is obviously not dead. If she had miscarried, she certainly wouldn't be looking at the fetus in her belly on the ultrasound, would she?!
Charlie kind of reminded me of Maya from The 4400. The entire show vaguely of that show, actually - a big mysterious event happens in the entire world, it is on all the news, everyone is trying to cope with it, nothing is the same etc.
Yeah, I felt the same. There aren't that many helicopters and light aircraft flying around the CBD of a major city at any one time like that. It just struck me as strange.
So far this show has seemed, to me at least, to be almost entirely gimmicky. The central premise, that of the future visions, is being wasted on soapy melodrama -- I really do not care whether or not Mark and Olivia stay together or whether Commander Norrington makes a cuckold out of Mark. It's inane nonsense. Not only that, the performances, particularly from Fiennes, are pretty weak.
And while I do wonder about what happened during the blackout, and why, that point is being more or less ignored in favor of melodrama.
I'll give the show another week. But, at this point, I think it's nonsensical garbage.
And while I do wonder about what happened during the blackout, and why, that point is being more or less ignored in favor of melodrama.
I'll give the show another week. But, at this point, I think it's nonsensical garbage.
You're assuming everything was external. What if someone was doing some welding when the black out occured; it could've sparked and started a fire.
What, so every building in the core of LA was either hit by an aircraft or there was a welding accident? I'm sorry, but I don't find that any more plausible.
I think the main problem with this is that we're supposed to be caring about these characters right from the start because of a two minute glimpse in the future ... without having seen much of their past.
Just imagine a flashforward like this happening in another show you like in say season 3.
I think the main problem here is that so far, we're supposed to be caring about these characters because they're in trouble, have issues, etc. But pity isn't really making me want to watch a show. I may yet grow to like these people (the scene between Demetri and *looks up name* Janis was well done, I think).
The basic premise and the question of what caused it and why some people apparently knew before keep my interest so far.
By the way, I understand that the LHC was involved in the book's premise. I liked that in this episode they referred to the guy breaking into various sites, possibly to check for causes and the LHC (or did they say CERN?) was one of them.
There's still plenty of activity at night including passenger, private and transport flights, bus or car travel, long hall truck travel, ER room operations and so on. Why the level of chaos would be lower for those for whom it happened late at night, there certainly wouldn't be nothing to deal with.
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