Flanderization of Klingons

Discussion in 'General Trek Discussion' started by JLBTucker, Jan 17, 2020.

  1. JonnyQuest037

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    Yeah, it'd be neat to see some early TNG era stories with the Ferengi played as something closer to their original conception. Like I said, there was definite potential with that version of them.
     
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  2. Therin of Andor

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    That is exactly what happened. The proposal entitled "Star Trek III: Return to Genesis" features a Romulan bird of prey under Romulan control. At some point, somebody decided that it would be hard to explain to general audiences why Sarek, Saavik and young Spock were "good guys" in a movie where the "bad guys" looked exactly the same, but acted differently.

    So many aspects of TOS/TAS Romulan culture - Romulan Neutral Zone, ritual suicide (Valkris), birds of prey, a code of honour, etc - were essentially transferred to the Klingons, while TNG's Klingons took their lead from Kruge, Maltz and Torg as models, rather than Kor, Koloth and Kang.
     
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  3. JonnyQuest037

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    The TNG Romulans became much more treacherous, too, which was a very Klingon thing on TOS. I thought that John Byrne captured the original TOS-style Klingon and Romulan characterizations beautifully in his graphic novel Pawns of War.
     
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  4. Geoff Peterson

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    I dunno. Sneaking across a border in a cloaked ship, in violation of treaty, to test a new super weapon on an unsuspecting outpost seems pretty treacherous to me. Klingons are much more in your face.
     
  5. Annorax849

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    My point is more that they came off a bit better than previous Klingons
     
  6. Tenacity

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    I didn't get the impression that what we were seeing was a weapons test.
     
  7. Geoff Peterson

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    I believe the plasma weapon was being tested.
     
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  9. fireproof78

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    That was the impression I had too.
     
  10. Tenacity

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    they was no dialog to indicate such, the romulans could of had the weapon for decades, just not the political will to use it on the earth outposts.
     
  11. fireproof78

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    I understand that. Just communicating my impressions from watching the episode and such.
     
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  12. Silvercrest

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    Let's find out! The next Abramsverse movie needs to feature a bunch of Klingons in the Enterprise engine room.