First View of SOTL 2011 NX-01 Refit Diagram

[STR]

I think the warbird was scaled better later in the show, when it seemed to be roughly the same size as the Galaxy or Vor'Cha. The only ep I can recall where it looked really huge was in "The Neutral Zone." And I've never really liked the effect because of the scale differences.

If you go by the show, the Warbird looks around 8-900m, which is enough for the effect of it being significantly larger. 1km+ is getting ridiculous.

 

[Kazeite]

Oh my. This NX refit looks... awkward.

 

[Warped9]

Accustomed to being in the minority the "refit" looks far better and more convincing than the initial design.

 

[SPCTRE]

Accustomed to being in the minority the "refit" looks far better and more convincing than the initial design.

Agreed.

Also, as much as I like Probert's work, the monster Warbird just looks wrong (besides just being suspension-of-disbelief-shatteringly huge), though I think it may grow on me yet. But that's a big "may".

 

[C.E. Evans]

Accustomed to being in the minority the "refit" looks far better and more convincing than the initial design.

Yeah, it looks a little bit more rougher and less refined to me. I can really imagine that designs a century later were built to be more smoother in appearance...

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Doug Drexler has put up plan views of the NX-01 Refit for the 2011 Calendar.

http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2010/04/25/nx-01-refit-diagram/

That link is a bit odd. It just links to Drexler's general site but doesn't show anything about the actual NX diagram. You have to manually type the above link into the address bar to get it to come out right.

Meaning: When you hover your mouse over that link, all it shows (and links to) is drexfiles.wordpress.com

 

[Excelsior]

Sorry to go COMPLETELY off-topic, but where did you get your avatar from, Spectre? I'm assuming it's from a book cover of some sort - that's possibly one of the best 'Captain Dax' pictures I've ever seen.

Granted, that's probably because it's an original piece of art, not just a quick Photoshop job...

 

[aridas sofia]

I like 'em both. The NX refit and the vertical warbird. I love seeing a ship that doesn't "just so happen" to be the size of Enterprise. This has a bit of the Fesarius feel to it, which I think is good.

 

[SPCTRE]

Sorry to go COMPLETELY off-topic, but where did you get your avatar from, Spectre? I'm assuming it's from a book cover of some sort - that's possibly one of the best 'Captain Dax' pictures I've ever seen.

Granted, that's probably because it's an original piece of art, not just a quick Photoshop job...

Yup, it's from the German Gods of Night cover illustration by Martin Frei (http://trekbbs.com/showpost.php?p=4050045&postcount=58)

 

[Excelsior]

Sorry to go COMPLETELY off-topic, but where did you get your avatar from, Spectre? I'm assuming it's from a book cover of some sort - that's possibly one of the best 'Captain Dax' pictures I've ever seen.

Granted, that's probably because it's an original piece of art, not just a quick Photoshop job...

Yup, it's from the German Gods of Night cover illustration by Martin Frei (http://trekbbs.com/showpost.php?p=4050045&postcount=58)

Thanks for the info - those are really cool!

Reminds me of the 'New Jedi Order' series of Star Wars books - most of the US/international covers were pretty 'so-so', with a mix of cheap Photoshopping and some uninspired original art.

The Japanese covers, however, were incredible! Really cool, realistic versions of 'Expanded Universe' characters, and some clever and accurate reimaginings of the main characters from the movies - pretty much like those covers you linked to in your post, in fact.

Man, I really need to go check out some of MartinFrei's other work now...!

 

[I-Am-Zim]

This is my version of the modified NX-01. I think this could fit between the NX-Class and the Constitution. Maybe. I just like this a little better than the original.

Dangit!!! Just remembered you have to be logged in to startrekmovie.com to see it. If this place would let me upload images from my frakkin hard drive I wouldn't have this problem.

 

[sojourner]

^um, photobucket?

 

[Irishman]

I think the warbird was scaled better later in the show, when it seemed to be roughly the same size as the Galaxy or Vor'Cha. The only ep I can recall where it looked really huge was in "The Neutral Zone." And I've never really liked the effect because of the scale differences.

I absolutely LOVED the scale effect of the Enterprise D up against the immense Warbird. It really was an "oh shit" moment when you wondered, dramatically, how would the Enterprise crew get out of this one?

The idea of capital ships of different species always been close to the same size to each other has never made sense to me. Especially, when the Romulan commander makes it clear that other matters had drawn them away from the UFP side of the NZ. Clearly, those other matters had something to do with a threat which caused the Romulans to severely upscale some of their ships of the line. To me, this idea deepens and enriches the fictional world here.

 

[Irishman]

Accustomed to being in the minority the "refit" looks far better and more convincing than the initial design.

Yeah, it looks a little bit more rougher and less refined to me. I can really imagine that designs a century later were built to be more smoother in appearance...

I've always been of the mind that, at this time period (from the NX up until the generation or 2 before the 1701 of Pike and Kirk), any aliens serving or otherwise posted on an Earth ship would feel lost, and complain about it being "too human", in its layout, control schemes, language . Similiarly, any humans would complain about being a fish out of water on Vulcan, Andorians, or Tellarite vessels.

It probably wasn't until the 1701 of Pike and Kirk that any real effort was made to simplify and make more ecumenical (from a design standpoint), ships of the line.

This symbolic simplification was echoed in the design changes that also simplified hulls and features mounted on them. I'm sure efficiency among multispecies crews skyrocketed, once everyone felt their needs were being accomodated.

 

[Irishman]

Yes, but it got the curse of the ugly stick instead.

I am very embarrassed to say this but I agree. People have been aggravating me to death wanting my opinion since Mr. Drexler first posted about it. I have managed to keep my big trap shut about it until now.

I LOVE the design of the NX and thought she was just fine the way she was. The ship was balanced and clean. But this... not so much. She just looks a little to "kludged" for my tastes. If there was some way to balance the new hull's contact points with the original warp farings, things would look better. The original deflector dish needs to be removed as well.

Edit to Add: After looking at the drawings again, if the new secondary hull was moved back and the interconnecting neck was reduced, I think things would flow together better. And from the front she looks awesome. It is the side profile that is bugging me.

Yeah, the side view looks like a micromachine (an out-of-proportion toy interpretation of a real starship).

 

[Broccoli]

The refit looks too fanboyish to me.

 

[I-Am-Zim]

^um, photobucket?

Okay. Let's try this one.

Hopefully that'll work.

Yep. Thar she blows!

This is my version of the next step between the NX-01 and NCC-1701. I kind of like it better than the one from the new SOTL calendar.

That one looks too much like they just took the NX-01 and tacked some stuff onto it.

 

[sojourner]

^They did. It is the NX-01. That's the whole point. It's supposed to look like a refit in a time when Starfleet is still learning how to build ships. I would be upset if it were too elegant in design. Parts should look "tacked on".

 

[B.J.]

If this place would let me upload images from my frakkin hard drive I wouldn't have this problem.

Unless I'm missing something, we can. Under your User CP, there's a link to Pictures & Albums. It has its limits, though.

I agree that the new secondary hull should look tacked on, since it was a refit. However, I don't particularly like how it turned out.

 

[C.E. Evans]

That one looks too much like they just took the NX-01 and tacked some stuff onto it.

^They did. It is the NX-01. That's the whole point. It's supposed to look like a refit in a time when Starfleet is still learning how to build ships. I would be upset if it were too elegant in design. Parts should look "tacked on".

I agree. It should look like something that was added to the ship because of necessity or whatever more than to satisfy the "kewl factor," IMO. Inherently, it is still the NX-class, albeit an expanded version. Anything else would be a brand-new design built from the keel up.