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First time watching TOS

The Prime Directive didn't apply in the case of "A Taste of Armageddon" since the whole reason they were there in the first place was because there was piracy going on, disrupting interstellar commerce, and in order to put a stop to that activity, relations needed to be established with Eminiar VII. Hence Ambassador Fox's rather broad authority in the matter.

If the Eminians and Vendikans wanted to kill each other off, fine, but the Federation wasn't about to let other planets suffer for their pigheadedness.
 
Welcome to the TrekBBS and to the world of Star Trek!

As a fan since TOS first aired on television, it is so wonderful to see someone so young (i presume anyway) appreciate what TOS was.

I found your comments to be enjoyable and very thoughtful. I look forward to hearing more from you as you go through season 2 & 3. Like others said, those seasons aren't quite up to par with the first (with the exception of some pretty amazing episodes), so be prepared for that.

Also, like someone said, DO follow up with the TOS movies.

Have fun! And welcome!
 
If you liked season one of TOS, you will also enjoy season two. As someone else noted, Amok Time is a must see episode. I would add that The Doomsday Machine, Mirror, Mirror and Journey to Babel are also great episodes from the second season.
 
Season 2 also offers some really good fun in episodes like I Mudd, The Trouble With Tribbles, and A Piece of the Action. Season 1 doesn't really have anything like those. (Well, maybe Shore Leave.)
 
Season one of Classic trek not have anything silly?

What about The Squire of Gothos? trelane, despite his underlying evil tendancies, has always had a comic aspect.
 
Welcome and Enjoy...


The sense of "Adventure" is what set TOS clearly above the other series...

and you're seeing it for the first time... So you'll get the full effect..


Season 3 is the most visual of the seasons..though many stories leave much to be desired..

Ahh to be 5 again..watching TOS on our HUGE 27" RCA Console TV....
 
The Prime Directive didn't apply in the case of "A Taste of Armageddon" since the whole reason they were there in the first place was because there was piracy going on, disrupting interstellar commerce, and in order to put a stop to that activity, relations needed to be established with Eminiar VII. Hence Ambassador Fox's rather broad authority in the matter.

If the Eminians and Vendikans wanted to kill each other off, fine, but the Federation wasn't about to let other planets suffer for their pigheadedness.
I think Kirk was perfectly willing not to stick his nose into their affairs and let them go on killing each other. But the moment they tried to get Kirk to sacrifice himself, his ship and his crew for their own reasons Kirk declared all bets were off. And as Kirk said, they don't just play at war but make the real thing. What Kirk did with one ship would also certainly give the Eminians and Vendikans pause to even think of pushing the Federation around.
 
My dad worked for RCA for a few years..(he was attached to the Apollo Program during much of that) and he could buy TVs radio's etc AT COST..so we always had a HUGE TV...
 
I'm pretty sure we had a color set back in the day (I want to say Zenith, but that could just be that early diet of commercials), but the only one I clearly remember is a 19" Sony Trinitron my folks got in the early 70's (and didn't really start giving up the ghost until the early 2000's).
 
maryh said:
I agree with your reservations about Pike's communications. Steven Hawking has better stuff even now (yes I realize the differences). But this was written probably in 1965 and since then, the field of communication has exploded. At the time it was written, it probably seemed almost too far fetched. It is essential to the plot though, so just enjoy it. It is a great storyline.
Exactly. I can understand why they chose a simple yes/no response, and respect it. It puts Pike in a very isolated place, avoids us being able to ask him detailed questions, and makes living in the Talosian's illusions a clear choice in the end. It also makes for dramatic answers from him, particularly because after the first flash, you can't immediately be sure that it's a yes until a little time has passed. I'm not sure why I even criticized this aspect in the first place.
Precisely!

Great thread, thoughtful responses! Welcome to TOS!
 
Well, I've finally finished watching all of TOS for the first time, watching seasons 2 and 3 several weeks ago, and all 6 movies in the past week. I decided to skip the animated series for now.

Season 2

"Return to Tomorrow" - I loved Spock's evil smile and sarcastic remarks. It's just so out of character, it's a treat to see.

"The Changeling" - Enjoyable episode, and I see that this is expanded in one of the motion pictures.

"The Ultimate Computer" - Another one where the computer is defeated by a contradiction, still enjoyed this. This to me is one of the classic Star Trek cultural elements.

"Spectre of the Gun" - When Spock concludes that they are harmed by the guns merely because they believe they can be, and thus comes to believe that he cannot be harmed by them, he explains this to the other away team members. He says that they must be absolutely certain of this, and suggests that he do a Vulcan mind operation with them in order to give them this the same confidence he has. Why didn't he just have each of the members shoot him, so that each would see that it doesn't cause any harm firsthand? That would convince them all with certainty, and take less than a minute. It seems like the producers just wanted an opportunity to do some Vulcan voodoo.

Season 3

"Wink of an Eye" - Provides an interesting puzzle for them to solve. I like this kind of episode, with some kind of technological obstacle for them to overcome by cleverness.

"Whom Gods Destroy" - This is an example of the kind of episode that I find terrible, with a stereotypical madman or someone just wanting power over others. Good there aren't too many of these.

"Let That Be Your Last Battlefield" - Loved the scene with Spock and Kirk listening to one explaining how bring colored white on the right side and black on the other is so very different from the opposite. This is probably one of the best episodes, in having a clearly-defined subject and many powerful scenes.

"Return to Tomorrow" and "Is there in truth no beauty?" - It was fun to see Doctor Pulaski (Diana Muldaur) decades earlier as the science officer Ann Mulhall and Dr. Miranda Jones, respectively. Her voice/accent is so distinctive.

Movies

Star Trek 1: enjoyable to see things with high production values. Felt sort of like Star Wars (in a good way), but also 2001 in the way it was somewhat psychological.

Star Trek 2: I admit it, I wasn't looking forward to this movie at all. I didn't particularly like the Khan episode, and the title pretty much gives away what the movie is about. But wow, after 15 minutes of the movie, I was loving it! This was such a contrast to the first; here, once Khan gets on a ship and the Enterprise is going to stop him, you know where everything's headed, and in your mind you're putting it all together and imagining how it will end. For me, this really makes a movie enjoyable.

Star Trek 3: This one was pretty enjoyable too. I liked how Kirk and friends worked outside regulations on their rescue mission.

Star Trek 4: I like that they explored the same "palette" as on the show, here doing the obligatory travel-to-Earth episode. I have to admit, the humor in this movie really worked for me, even though I'm pretty picky when it comes to movie humor in an otherwise serious film. I couldn't stop laughing after the scene where Chekov was asking where to find the nuclear wessels. Just the way he was so clearly drawing bad attention, but oblivious, worked so well. The other one where the woman asks Kirk if they want to eat Italian, and Kirk and Spock do that "yes no... yes no... yes... yes" exchange, with Spock seeming to really not want Italian, also was great. I think the measured use of humor, without insulting the viewer's intelligence, is why it worked. Otherwise the movie is serious, so it doesn't detract (I'm hinting at my comments on Star Trek 5, as you can probably tell...).

Star Trek 5: Oh wow, what happened here? It started out interesting, with the guy having people open up about their deepest fears and hurts, but just went really bad. Someone tried to put way too much humor, and it was the kind you'd find in a movie like Idiocracy, not Star Trek. After seeing this, I was worried about whether I'd waste an hour+ watching the 6th movie.

Star Trek 6: A decent final movie centering on the original crew. It had lots of interesting elements, like the moon exploding and the huge ecological disaster, the Klingons' focus on military being their potential undoing, and relations between them. For a good part of the movie, I thought it would turn out to be Spock who was one of the two assassins, since near the beginning of the movie he was saying things that suggested he would be doing something later that would end his serving as a member of Starfleet. This movie felt a little overdone, as later movies involving TNG crew would be, having somehat involved conspiracy plots and twists. I tend to prefer a simpler plot.

Here's how I rank the movies relatively: 2, 4, 3, 6, 1, 5

It was a real treat to have so many movies to watch, now that I'm a fan of TOS in addition to TNG. The 2-3-4 trilogy was especially good, despite that they didn't plan on having one in advance. I've been really impressed with how well the film was restored in the DVD versions of the episodes and movies (redone effects aside).
 
It's interesting, I won't watch given watching TNG and watching TOS, I'll happily watch TOS, despite growing up on TNG. TOS seems much more interesting than TNG.

(Note that TMP:DE is a particularly unusual case of a director’s cut. It isn’t an after-the-fact alternate version, or even a difference of opinion between the director and studio. It’s what the movie was always supposed to be. Unfortunate circumstances forced TMP into the theaters before they were done working on it. The Theatrical Edition is a draft. I don’t mean like George Lucas’ “The original versions of Eps IV-VI were just rough drafts” bullshit; this is for real.)
Sadly, there's a pretty solid case to be made that the DE isn't what Wise wanted back in 79/80, as it doesn't jive with interviews here gave back then, and there's too much fanwank in it to believe it's "original intent".
Well the special editions weren't what lucas originally intended either.
 
* I had heard about Shatner's... pausing... style but I could hardly notice it while watching. I guess I approached the show without expectation. I liked his character's calm style of doing the logs, and in general.

I thought so too, but it becomes very, very obvious later and in the movies.
 
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