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Neither 3 nor Ressurection come close to the first two, but I at least admire 3 for what they tried to do. The only redeeming feature Ressurection has is some witty dialogue...
Both 3 and 4 are Oscar worthy gems compared to AVP2 however!
I'm not the sort of viewer who turns off films, usually i'll stick with it to the bitter end no matter how bad it is. But AVP2 is one of the only films I have switched off half way through in living memory.
No point watching something where everything happens so fast and shrouded in such darkness that you actually can't see what is going on at all.
You're lucky I was trapped in the cinema with it! Just poor on practically every level aside from the maternity ward scene which whilst somewhat sick and disturbing, was inventive enough to warrant being in a much better film. The rest of it is just terrible though. Bad enough they drag both aliens and predators down to the level of a crappy small town USA under siege type horror movie, but to then film the thing so dark you can't see what's going on just beggars belief!
I've never walked out of a film at the cinema though, although last year I saw T4 and had to pop to the loo midway through, and part of me did just feel like not coming back!
Yeah. If you want to discuss Star Trek Nemesis then I'll go in the forum for it and discuss it with you, but I'd rather you didn't imply I'm a bloody idiot just because you (or most people here) didn't.
Alien 3's enjoyably bleak, that's the best way I can put it. I love the way the opening undoes the stupid Disney ending of Aliens and
autopsies Newt in the first 10 minutes.
It sets a tone that doesn't let up. I also think the funeral scene is probably my favourite scene from any of the Alien and/or Predator films (though the chasing/ending of Predator 2 comes close, and I know that's another unpopular film).
Considering the pissing around that went on with that movie and that Fincher was really only a shadow director on the project it's easy to be critical.
Personally I think it's amazing that such a gritty and powerful film was born from such disorganisation. Aliens had a mega happy ending. Ripley should've been the sole survivor then too. Imagine thinking she'd got through all of the pain, then Newt gets sucked out of the airlock with the Queen.
Ripley would've been even more apeshit than she was in Alien3!
Yeah. If you want to discuss Star Trek Nemesis then I'll go in the forum for it and discuss it with you, but I'd rather you didn't imply I'm a bloody idiot just because you (or most people here) didn't.
Alien 3's enjoyably bleak, that's the best way I can put it. I love the way the opening undoes the stupid Disney ending of Aliens and
autopsies Newt in the first 10 minutes.
It sets a tone that doesn't let up. I also think the funeral scene is probably my favourite scene from any of the Alien and/or Predator films (though the chasing/ending of Predator 2 comes close, and I know that's another unpopular film).
The darkness is AvP;Requiem was largely to hide the lack of budget! The infamous 'fatal orgasm' maternity ward scene aside.
Aliens=Disney? 131 minutes of violence, death and gore? 200 dead and 4 survivors, 1 disfigured, one cut in half, Ripley and co DESERVE their victory. Fincher hijacked to the series to make his own pathetic gorno/slasher fic in space having no understanding of why everyone loved Alien/Aliens (hint, people love JAWS for the hunt, not for the shark attacks, something lost on the makers of JAWS 2). The series never recovered from Alien 3 despite Joss' best efforts. If 3 had been the 1st sequal to Alien (which it easily could have been, the storyline would fit no problem, Ripley's shuttle crashing on a prison planet with an egg on board) no one would have bothered to make a third installment because no one would have wanted to see it, the series/concept continued largely because of the momentum generated by the brilliance of Aliens.
After watching Alien/Aliens you feel, thrilled, excited and entertained yet still know that you've watched intelligent, scary, quality films. After Alien 3 you want to steer your car into the oncoming traffic as you feel life is pointless (as was the film) and it's ruined your enjoyment of the brilliant Alien and Aliens, you can never watch them again with the same pleasure as you know what's coming next. Even the descriptions of Alien 3 outlined in this post
make me want to retch/cry.
Aliens=Disney? 131 minutes of violence, death and gore? 200 dead and 4 survivors, 1 disfigured, one cut in half, Ripley and co DESERVE their victory. Fincher hijacked to the series to make his own pathetic gorno/slasher fic in space having no understanding of why everyone loved Alien/Aliens (hint, people love JAWS for the hunt, not for the shark attacks, something lost on the makers of JAWS 2). The series never recovered from Alien 3 despite Joss' best efforts. If 3 had been the 1st sequal to Alien (which it easily could have been, the storyline would fit no problem, Ripley's shuttle crashing on a prison planet with an egg on board) no one would have bothered to make a third installment because no one would have wanted to see it, the series/concept continued largely because of the momentum generated by the brilliance of Aliens.
After watching Alien/Aliens you feel, thrilled, excited and entertained yet still know that you've watched intelligent, scary, quality films. After Alien 3 you want to steer your car into the oncoming traffic as you feel life is pointless (as was the film) and it's ruined your enjoyment of the brilliant Alien and Aliens, you can never watch them again with the same pleasure as you know what's coming next. Even the descriptions of Alien 3 outlined in this post
make me want to retch/cry.
Yeah. If you want to discuss Star Trek Nemesis then I'll go in the forum for it and discuss it with you, but I'd rather you didn't imply I'm a bloody idiot just because you (or most people here) didn't.
Alien 3's enjoyably bleak, that's the best way I can put it. I love the way the opening undoes the stupid Disney ending of Aliens and
autopsies Newt in the first 10 minutes.
It sets a tone that doesn't let up. I also think the funeral scene is probably my favourite scene from any of the Alien and/or Predator films (though the chasing/ending of Predator 2 comes close, and I know that's another unpopular film).
The darkness is AvP;Requiem was largely to hide the lack of budget! The infamous 'fatal orgasm' maternity ward scene aside.
Aliens=Disney? 131 minutes of violence, death and gore? 200 dead and 4 survivors, 1 disfigured, one cut in half, Ripley and co DESERVE their victory. Fincher hijacked to the series to make his own pathetic gorno/slasher fic in space having no understanding of why everyone loved Alien/Aliens (hint, people love JAWS for the hunt, not for the shark attacks, something lost on the makers of JAWS 2). The series never recovered from Alien 3 despite Joss' best efforts. If 3 had been the 1st sequal to Alien (which it easily could have been, the storyline would fit no problem, Ripley's shuttle crashing on a prison planet with an egg on board) no one would have bothered to make a third installment because no one would have wanted to see it, the series/concept continued largely because of the momentum generated by the brilliance of Aliens.
After watching Alien/Aliens you feel, thrilled, excited and entertained yet still know that you've watched intelligent, scary, quality films. After Alien 3 you want to steer your car into the oncoming traffic as you feel life is pointless (as was the film) and it's ruined your enjoyment of the brilliant Alien and Aliens, you can never watch them again with the same pleasure as you know what's coming next. Even the descriptions of Alien 3 outlined in this post
make me want to retch/cry.
TFF probably is my favourite Star Trek film. TPM can do one though.
Yeah. If you want to discuss Star Trek Nemesis then I'll go in the forum for it and discuss it with you, but I'd rather you didn't imply I'm a bloody idiot just because you (or most people here) didn't.
Alien 3's enjoyably bleak, that's the best way I can put it. I love the way the opening undoes the stupid Disney ending of Aliens and
autopsies Newt in the first 10 minutes.
It sets a tone that doesn't let up. I also think the funeral scene is probably my favourite scene from any of the Alien and/or Predator films (though the chasing/ending of Predator 2 comes close, and I know that's another unpopular film).
The darkness is AvP;Requiem was largely to hide the lack of budget! The infamous 'fatal orgasm' maternity ward scene aside.
Aliens=Disney? 131 minutes of violence, death and gore? 200 dead and 4 survivors, 1 disfigured, one cut in half, Ripley and co DESERVE their victory. Fincher hijacked to the series to make his own pathetic gorno/slasher fic in space having no understanding of why everyone loved Alien/Aliens (hint, people love JAWS for the hunt, not for the shark attacks, something lost on the makers of JAWS 2). The series never recovered from Alien 3 despite Joss' best efforts. If 3 had been the 1st sequal to Alien (which it easily could have been, the storyline would fit no problem, Ripley's shuttle crashing on a prison planet with an egg on board) no one would have bothered to make a third installment because no one would have wanted to see it, the series/concept continued largely because of the momentum generated by the brilliance of Aliens.
After watching Alien/Aliens you feel, thrilled, excited and entertained yet still know that you've watched intelligent, scary, quality films. After Alien 3 you want to steer your car into the oncoming traffic as you feel life is pointless (as was the film) and it's ruined your enjoyment of the brilliant Alien and Aliens, you can never watch them again with the same pleasure as you know what's coming next. Even the descriptions of Alien 3 outlined in this post
make me want to retch/cry.
I don't understand the feeling that it has ruined the first 2 films, that makes no sense. Just don't watch the 3rd one again and don't accept it as the reality of what happened to those characters if it upsets you so much.
It's not like we are talking about the creative vision of a single author or artist, they are all separate pieces with separate directors that can stand alone as well as they can stand as a series.
It's just a film, you can choose to accept it or not, it's up to you.
The darkness is AvP;Requiem was largely to hide the lack of budget! The infamous 'fatal orgasm' maternity ward scene aside.
Aliens=Disney? 131 minutes of violence, death and gore? 200 dead and 4 survivors, 1 disfigured, one cut in half, Ripley and co DESERVE their victory. Fincher hijacked to the series to make his own pathetic gorno/slasher fic in space having no understanding of why everyone loved Alien/Aliens (hint, people love JAWS for the hunt, not for the shark attacks, something lost on the makers of JAWS 2). The series never recovered from Alien 3 despite Joss' best efforts. If 3 had been the 1st sequal to Alien (which it easily could have been, the storyline would fit no problem, Ripley's shuttle crashing on a prison planet with an egg on board) no one would have bothered to make a third installment because no one would have wanted to see it, the series/concept continued largely because of the momentum generated by the brilliance of Aliens.
After watching Alien/Aliens you feel, thrilled, excited and entertained yet still know that you've watched intelligent, scary, quality films. After Alien 3 you want to steer your car into the oncoming traffic as you feel life is pointless (as was the film) and it's ruined your enjoyment of the brilliant Alien and Aliens, you can never watch them again with the same pleasure as you know what's coming next. Even the descriptions of Alien 3 outlined in this post
make me want to retch/cry.
Aliens - A Classic (Even better with the extended edition)
Alien 3 - Worst of the 4 Alien movies.
Aliens Resurrection - Better than 3 but still a bad movie
As for the AVP movies, number 1 is ok for half the film and then falls apart and number 2 is a excuse to have an action film but without the plot. No Colonial Marines then its not really AVP IMO. Speaking of Predator's...
