First look at Caesar from Rise of the Planet of the Apes

[Technobuilder]

To be honest, I don't really think of ILM as top dog in the field of FX anymore... They very well may be, but my perception of Industrial Light & Magic has certainly shifted over the last couple of decades.

Other than Weta Digital/Workshop, does ILM have any major competition?

I kind of feel like they peaked and then stopped innovating for fun.

 

[BlobVanDam]

To be honest, I don't really think of ILM as top dog in the field of FX anymore... They very well may be, but my perception of Industrial Light & Magic has certainly shifted over the last couple of decades.

Other than Weta Digital/Workshop, does ILM have any major competition?

I've found ILM have gotten quite inconsistent. They still do some amazing stuff, but they also put out a fair bit of not so impressive stuff. Maybe they're spread too thin, or have better groups only on the better movies? Trek XI and Transformers looked amazing, but then I see other things (none that I can recall by name) and was definitely not so impressed.

WETA don't seem to do as much stuff (that I notice, at least, so I could be way off base here), but they seem to deliver consistently and maintain a very high standard. Most things I see from them are very impressive (although King Kong didn't impress me so much, but on a technical level it was still very good).

 

[Aragorn]

The teaser trailer is up on Apple.com.

 

[BlobVanDam]

I just watched the trailer on Youtube (no reason for Apple to have my view), and I'm not sure what to think of it. Not quite what I was expecting, although nothing specifically off-putting. Other than having apes, it really didn't feel like Planet of the Apes, if that makes sense. The apes looked very good from what I saw, although I was thinking their intelligence would already extend to speaking, so maybe that's being saved for a revelation at the end (like the end of Escape or Conquest).
I'll probably see this movie at the cinema, although right now I'm neither positive or negative about it. Just interested as a big fan of the original franchise (yes, I like all 5 of the original movies, and Conquest was my favourite).

 

[ColeMercury]

It also fits the standard naming convention. Beneath the Planet of the Apes, Escape From the Planet of the Apes, Conquest of the Planet of the Apes, Battle for the Planet of the Apes...Rise of the Planet of the Apes.

Does "Rise" acknowledge those films in its continuity, though? Because a title like "Rise of the Apes" might be an effort to distance itself from those movies.

Why does everything have to be a fucking trilogy...

I'm with you on this. The film world needs more duologies and tetralogies. Especially tetralogies.

 

[Deckerd]

Watching that teaser I know I would hate that movie on just about every level. No thanks.

 

[23skidoo]

Knowing full well it's just a few seconds long and doesn't show Caesar talking and walking around, I really don't see any difference between this and the costume Tim Roth wore in the Burton film.

If he's completely CGI - and by that I mean not even motion capture but completely generated by computer - than that's not a complaint, really because if can't tell the difference then its done its job.

I haven't seen the trailer yet, but I hope it's more an adaptation of Pierre Boule's original novel (and I don't care if kids don't watch the old movies - not everything has be made for f-ing kids and maybe it'll get them to read the book). The original films and definitely Burton veered away from the original concepts which were only dropped back in the 1960s because of lack of filming technology and budget.

Oh and I thought Bonham-Carter was really cute as Ari. Kim Hunter was cute as Zira back in the day, too. Thing with Ari was it made some viewers uncomfortable and it was one of the reasons (among many, I'll grant) that they rejected the original film. I thought the original was fine, and I was the only person on the planet (it seemed) to get the fact the controversial ending was pure Rod Serling, and something you would have seen end a Twilight Zone episode back in the day (Serling wrote the original POTA movie).

Alex

 

[Shazam!]

That teaser trailer is Terminator 3

 

[Alidar Jarok]

Very cool CGI, although it seems the movie is distancing itself from the Planet of the Apes continuity. Maybe that's necessary with the end of the Cold War, but it still is a pretty big change to go from nuclear war to animal experimentation.

 

[Gepard]

That's the first time I've ever seen a visual effects company get plugged in the trailer.

As for the rest of it, it looks like a standard "we invented a serum/computer system/virus/magic handbag and it got out of control." It might as well be a zombie movie. Lame.

 

[Trekker4747]

I still haven't worked out why Helena Bonham-Carter looked more attractive in ape makeup than in real life.

I was wondering that myself the first time I saw the movie.

Or bald in Terminator Salvation.

Actually I don't think Helena Bonham Carter is all that bad looking, really, so long as she's in somewhat "normal looking" garb.

 

[BlobVanDam]

That's the first time I've ever seen a visual effects company get plugged in the trailer.

As for the rest of it, it looks like a standard "we invented a serum/computer system/virus/magic handbag and it got out of control." It might as well be a zombie movie. Lame.

I think that pinpoints one reason this movie doesn't get me as excited as I expected. It almost looks more horror film, especially with all of the apes running wild on highways and streets.
I'm guessing they wanted a more plausible explanation than the story in the 70s movies, but it's now a more common movie scenario.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Very cool CGI, although it seems the movie is distancing itself from the Planet of the Apes continuity. Maybe that's necessary with the end of the Cold War, but it still is a pretty big change to go from nuclear war to animal experimentation.

Well, the original film series distanced itself from its own continuity as far as this early backstory is concerned - by the third and fourth movies they established that the apes revolted prior to the nuclear war, as the result of Caesar's leadership. As a result of the kind of time loop presented in those movies it's impossible to tell whether the nuclear war played any part at all in the "evolution" of the apes after they freed themselves; the apes we see in "Battle For The Planet Of The Apes" are identical to those whom Taylor encounters centuries later, and they're established as existing pretty much unchanged since before the war. There still may be a nuclear war in the future of this new continuity, as well.

 

[BlobVanDam]

Very cool CGI, although it seems the movie is distancing itself from the Planet of the Apes continuity. Maybe that's necessary with the end of the Cold War, but it still is a pretty big change to go from nuclear war to animal experimentation.

Well, the original film series distanced itself from its own continuity as far as this early backstory is concerned - by the third and fourth movies they established that the apes revolted prior to the nuclear war, as the result of Caesar's leadership. As a result of the kind of time loop presented in those movies it's impossible to tell whether the nuclear war played any part at all in the "evolution" of the apes after they freed themselves; the apes we see in "Battle For The Planet Of The Apes" are identical to those whom Taylor encounters centuries later, and they're established as existing pretty much unchanged since before the war. There still may be a nuclear war in the future of this new continuity, as well.

I'm not sure it distanced itself from it, rather it just changed the past with Escape, which altered the original timeline with an evolved Caesar to lead the revolt. The apes in Conquest were more intelligent than regular apes, but it seems they've mostly put this down to domestication now (aside from the one ape at the end who spoke). The timeline between Conquest and Battle doesn't work too well no matter how you look at it, so I don't know if the nuclear war between the two movies works for explaining the continuity. (been a couple of years since I've watched them, but I'm really wanting to now).

 

[Saga]

the more i see of this movie the more i actually want to see it, and i'm an 'old school' Apes fan. i was hoping to see Caesar talk in the trailer though. also, the Ape revolt would be better if they were wearing green, orange or red jumpsuits

 

[Greylock Crescent]

The overall plotline does seem unfortunately similar to many previous films. I guess we'll have to wait and see how the specifics play out -- and whether or not it deviates enough to make the film particularly memorable. I'll say this, though, I'm definitely interested in seeing it in the theaters.

 

[Obiwanshinobi]

It's like The Birds, but with super intelligent apes!

 

[CorporalCaptain]

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_gKq200EBk[/yt]

 

[davejames]

Wow, I thought that looked surprisingly very, very cool. There was nothing about this movie that remotely interested me before, but seeing that completely changed my mind. This looks dark and creepy as hell.

the more i see of this movie the more i actually want to see it, and i'm an 'old school' Apes fan. i was hoping to see Caesar talk in the trailer though. also, the Ape revolt would be better if they were wearing green, orange or red jumpsuits

I wouldn't be surprised if the final, Statue of Liberty-style twist at the end is hearing Caesar speak for the first time.

 

[Samurai8472]

The music at the beginning made me think they were going to plant an idea into the chimps mind


I'm not so sure about the massive CGI swarm of apes. Gives me bad memories of "I Robot"