Well, there were the launch sites for nukes (like the one Cochrane turned into the Phoenix). Still, it's nice to know that in the future, Montana will be remembered for something other than being the location of the Unabomber's hideout.
First Contract in Montana?
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I'm hurt. Nobody caught my joke on this thread 
Either that or it's because the Vulcans signed a contract with the humans to meet them in America (hint the mispelling in the subject title)
Don't mock my stupidity! Thats unpossable!
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Wait, the Unabomber lived in Montana? Huh.
Not necessarily. I'm not sure how many missile silos are still active in Montana, but the state used to have one of the largest concentrations of ICBMs in the USA.
Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Wyoming, Colorado, and Missouri were all considered dense pack strike zones during the Cold War. Dense pack due to the number and location of ground strike impacts that would have occurred during WWIII. There were so many active silos in each state that nothing in the state would have survived a full nuclear exchange between the USA and the Soviet Union.
This is the 1990 FEMA probable strike map for Montana. The small circles are ground impact detonation locations. The larger circles are air-burst detonation locations.
This is the 1990 FEMA fallout projection map for the USA. The large red patches are the fallout from all of our ICBM silos being destroyed. The small red lines are the fallout from our cities being destroyed.
This survivalist website has a list of the 1990 FEMA maps for every US state. The maps are disturbing.
But you make a good point about other cultures being superior to American culture... LONG LIVE FERENGINAR!!!
(Therein lies the real joke)
Yeah, because a V-2 rocket is almost the same thing as a Saturn V rocket booster.
America also invented the airplane and the Internet. You're welcome, world.
You mean besides the sextant, bifocal glasses, the cotton gin, the refrigerator, the coffee pot, the sewing machine, the revolver, the telegraph machine (developed independently but simultaneously with Europe), the safety pin, the first commercially viable typewriter, the motorcycle, blue jeans, the mimeograph, the telephone, the cash register, the electric fan, the skyscraper, Coca-Cola, the hand-held box camera, the escalator, the Ferris Wheel, the gasoline-powered tractor, the zipper, the air conditioner, crayons, windshield wipers, the tea bag, the wirephoto, the Band-Aid, frozen food, the chocolate chip cookie, radio astronomy, the photocopier, nylon, the defibrillator, the aerosol spray can, the microwave oven, carbon dating, the Polaroid camera, the disposable diaper, the heart-lung machine, the nuclear submarine, the polio vaccine, the atom bomb, the integrated circuit, the oral contraceptive, lasers, fiber-optics, the handheld calculator, the product barcode, the space shuttle, the Saturn V rocket and Lunar lander, the graphical user interface, the Hubble Space Telescope, the Human Genome Project?
Well, there's the electric light bulb, the airplane, and the Internet.
Whatever you may think of America, we have a pretty good history of producing major inventions. Especially Ohio -- Ohioans invented the light bulb and the airplane, and an Ohioan was the first man to set foot on Luna.
Well, one, we have a decent history of invention ourselves.
Two, TOS's Cochrane had an American accent. And three, because it's an American production. You might as well ask why the denizens of New New York in the Year 5 Billion on Doctor Who all speak with British accents.Well, NASA, the ESA, and the New United Nations were probably all gone after the war. Having said that, the details of how Cochrane invented warp drive are unestablished; he was using resources that had once belonged to the United States Air Force. It's possible that Cochrane's warp drive development project began as a government-sponsored project before the war and that he continued it privately after the collapse of the US government during the war. Indeed, that's what the novel The Lost Era: The Sundered by Michael A. Martin and Andy Mangels establishes.
But it's not that unrealistic -- the history of American invention shows a healthy mixture of inventions resulting from both private (airplane) and public (the Internet) endeavors. And of course American inventions have a history of being augmented by ingenious inventors and engineers in other countries; our friends and neighbors in Great Britain made the Internet a success by developing the World Wide Web, for instance.
You can tell a lot about a person's culture by listening to their descriptions of other cultures. </understatement>
Typically, ingroup good, outgroup bad, so outgroup must also think so about us. So frak 'em all. (Nice ).
I wonder which attitude more people have:
Us vs Them
Us and Them
Me vs Us
Me vs Everyone
Anyway, conceit is hardly elevating.
Typically, ingroup good, outgroup bad, so outgroup must also think so about us. So frak 'em all. (Nice
).I wonder which attitude more people have:
Us vs Them
Us and Them
Me vs Us
Me vs Everyone
Anyway, conceit is hardly elevating.
So, we're to assume that the world governments/blocks tried to stockpile Augment scientists to advance the next generation in technology?
By the way... Carbon Creek anyone?
The seat of the Federation President is in Paris France. See! Less Amerocentricisms then you might think.
By the way... Carbon Creek anyone?
The seat of the Federation President is in Paris France. See! Less Amerocentricisms then you might think.
Yeah, because a V-2 rocket is almost the same thing as a Saturn V rocket booster.
America also invented the airplane and the Internet. You're welcome, world.
...the space programme was started with the help of said Nazis,
Hence the question, also much of that is questionably not american inventions alone but the point is taken.
Picard had a British accent and was supposed to be French/
It was an American production about the future of humanity, the way the show was sometimes you'd think America (and maybe France) were the only countries left.
What happened to the other five contenents?????
I thought Sisko was African at first then they made him from America...snooze, give us some vairety.
Interesting point about him maybe augmenting others work thats a good explanation.
I just found it hard to beleive one man or even one team in such an isolated area with so few resources could invent something so advanced.
Here's a thought. Is America even still considered America after WWIII? I realize Data said something about Montana being in North America, but I always thought that was said just for the movie goers so they know where they are located. But you would think that after all the devastation you would wonder if the inhabitants even still considered America America.
And besides, Starfleet headquarters have always been in "America" so that seemed most logical.
And besides, Starfleet headquarters have always been in "America" so that seemed most logical.
From what I've seen on screen so far the United Earth government is a heavily decentralised federal deal, so there would still be local national identities and probably still called the same, but it's a good point, take a looK at Europe before WWI or even before 1990 and you'll see countries that no longer exist like the Soviet Union, Austro-Hungarian Empire, and Ottoman Empire
Well that's what I was wondering about. During TNG, I remember some of the characters calling what are now countries "old nation states". So I would assume even though they may call the places by their proper name, that maybe by the time it isn't really what it was anymore.