First contact rules

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  1. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    While incel started as being short for that, these days it refers to a certain subset of them.
     
  2. Qonundrum

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    Trek fans know of incels? HIYOOOOO!!!! :guffaw:

    Awesome distinctions, thank you! :techman: "Incel" may have started as the concatenated abbreviation of "involuntary" and "celibate", but both since have become their own distinct terms.

    To make things even more interesting, there are also the voluntarily celibates. With all the cooties going around nowadays and as more of them are becoming harder to treat...
     
  3. 1001001

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    How did we get from “first contact rules” to “incels?”

    :shrug:
     
  4. Orphalesion

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    But...the thing is...Angel One is like the depiction of a matriarchal society as written by incels.
    I mean, look at it. A world full of statuesque, supposedly stunning, and dominant women...who all fall to their knees the moment an even slightly rugged man comes around.
    So I wouldn't give points for that.
     
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  5. Captrek

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    I should mention that while I consider incel philosophy to be vile, I am not totally without sympathy for its adherents. Involuntary celibacy is an extremely painful condition to live with. That kind of pain, over time, inevitably generates anger. You can either direct that anger outward, becoming an incel or misotheist, or direct it inward and become a self-hating depressive. The condition is simply incompatible with being psychologically healthy.
     
  6. BillJ

    BillJ The King of Kings Premium Member

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    Or one can be self-reflective and try to figure out how they came to that point in their lives.
     
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  7. Captrek

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    Doesn’t work that way. I know a lot of people think that incel philosophy is the cause (rather than result) of involuntary celibacy and that they can cure the condition simply by giving up the philosophy, but that’s just not reality.
     
  8. BillJ

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    If one isn't willing to be, at least, a little self-reflective, then a lot of the problems they simply aren't going to be able to escape.
     
  9. herofhyrule

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    Incels tend to be the kind of people who people don't find attractive for reasons other than the incel philosophy.
     
  10. Captrek

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    So if they just reflect a little and rethink the philosophy, the problems go away? Is that what you think?
     
  11. BillJ

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    No. "Why am I the way I am?" is usually a good place to start, though.

    Kinda like having to admit one has an alcohol problem before help can be helpful.
     
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    Charlie Brown, upon reflection, realized that the best course going forward was to stop trying to kick the football. Success no longer outweighed the crushed hopes and humiliation.
     
  13. Captrek

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    They do ask themselves that question. The only answers they can find are in incel philosophy, misotheism, or self-hate.
     
  14. herofhyrule

    herofhyrule Commander Red Shirt

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    I don't see the link between incel philosophy and god-hating.
     
  15. BillJ

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    Then they aren't looking very deep. :lol:
     
  16. Captrek

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    You have to blame someone. It’s a psychological necessity. Blame yourself, blame women, or blame God.
     
  17. BillJ

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    You shouldn't be looking to blame someone. You should be looking for reasons why you hold the beliefs that you do.
     
  18. Captrek

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    They hold those beliefs because they need an explanation for their suffering.
     
  19. BillJ

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    It doesn't mean those beliefs are their answers.
     
  20. Captrek

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    I never said it did.

    I’m just trying to explain where incel beliefs come from. I’m not saying they’re correct.