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Firing phasers

Making your own shields permeable to your own phasers by adopting a specific frequency sounds like suicide.

I mean, the point ought to be to keep the shield frequency secret from the enemy. But if you fire specifically tuned phasers at the enemy, you are sending them the frequency in a phaser beam.

I guess it's equally possible (in the fictional sense of the word) and more likely that shields simply work in one direction only. Stuff gets out trivially easily. It can't get back in, though, which is why the heroes don't like to beam out through their own shields - they generally want to return, too. But technically they could, and indeed this seems to be what's happening in the very first beaming-and-shields episode, "A Taste of Armageddon".

That same episode also includes the tidbit that fully raised shields preclude the use of full phasers. But that's probably a simple power allocation issue, and also specific to the ship in question - nothing suggests the shields would block the phasers.

As for the rotation thing, I'm pretty sure shields are being rotated in ST:GEN (only it doesn't help because LaForge always tells the Klingons the new frequency). It could also be that the figure we see is the frequency at which the shields are being rotated...

On the other hand, rotation is supposed to defeat the Borg adaptation routine. If it were of any help against conventional enemies, surely it would have been invented and introduced centuries before "Best of Both Worlds". For all we know, rotation seriously weakens the shields, and should never be done except against the Borg where it's better than the nothing one would get if one didn't rotate.

Timo Saloniemi
 
I have been watching the series, of course start to finish, but I have a question.
On the Defiant it seems that they can fire the phasers through the shields!
I didn't think this could be done.
Do they mention the ship having this capability?
(My DVDs are sort of scratched so sometimes I miss dialogue or 1/2 episodes etc.)
Also I was watching last night and it seemed that they had to de-cloak to fire weapons.
How can they fire through the shields but not while cloaked?
Was this intentional or was there just a writing error?
It's called throwing sh*t at the wall and hoping it'll stick. Breaking their own rules because the story required it was the motto on DS9 War seasons. I recall an episode where the Defiant warped within the same system to reach its Sun to destroy a trilithium weapon. WTF?!? Sigh.
 
It's called throwing sh*t at the wall and hoping it'll stick. Breaking their own rules because the story required it was the motto on DS9 War seasons. I recall an episode where the Defiant warped within the same system to reach its Sun to destroy a trilithium weapon. WTF?!? Sigh.
They did it in ST:TMP and ST:FC. Bogus complaint.
 
It's called throwing sh*t at the wall and hoping it'll stick. Breaking their own rules because the story required it was the motto on DS9 War seasons. I recall an episode where the Defiant warped within the same system to reach its Sun to destroy a trilithium weapon. WTF?!? Sigh.

Every science fiction show breaks its own rules sometimes...
 
It sometimes seems it's the fans who don't really care enough to check the facts (such as there are in fiction)...

Since when has warping within a system been bad? The one time Scotty wasn't allowed to do it in TOS, in "Elaan of Troyius", he considered Kirk more or less insane for not giving the order. Kirk always warped right out of orbit. So did Sisko, Archer and Janeway; we don't know why we so seldom saw Picard do it, but perhaps he didn't want to look as if he were abandoning his newest acquaintances in a hurry or something.

Some misunderstood "rules" I can understand. What could possibly make one think phasers cannot be fired through one's own raised shields, though?

Timo Saloniemi
 
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