Firefly/Serenity Question....

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by jolau, Jul 18, 2010.

  1. jolau

    jolau Captain Captain

    Mar 4, 2004
    San Francisco, CA
    I just watched the entire series and the movie, and I have one odd question.

    How long do you think the Reavers can last?

    They don't reproduce naturally, and it seems as if much of what the Reavers do will cause thier numbers to dwindle (living in unsafe ships, malnutrition from lack of food, combat casualties, etc. etc.)

    It seems as if the Reavers sole means of keeping thier numbers is through converting, either torturing the people they capture into becoming one, or exposing them to the Pax. (Although I think it's possible they are intertwined somehow)

    Any ideas?
  2. Hermiod

    Hermiod Admiral Admiral

    Mar 16, 2006
    ^Probably not long. In my view, the one thing stopping the Alliance from wiping them out was the fact that they made a handy barrier to stop people getting through to Miranda to find out about the Pax.

    Now it's public knowledge, they're just a nuisance to be dealt with.
  3. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Apr 15, 2000
    In the lap of squalor I assure you.
    It's early days.

    besides, we don't know how man has been genetically modified to live a little longer considering how long it takes to stabilize a colony.
  4. chardman

    chardman Vice Admiral In Memoriam

    Sep 5, 2001
    The home of GenCon
    I too have recently re-watched the whole series as well as the film, and would like to know: Where was it ever established that the Reavers "don't reproduce naturally"? I sure don't remember anything remotely like that being said, or even implied, by anything on-screen.

    I'd sat that devoid of the usual social restraints, and driven almost entirely by their more animalistic urges, I'd think they'd breed like rabbits.
  5. propita

    propita Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Mar 9, 2001
    fresno, ca, us
    Well, they'd have to not rape the women to death first. Then not kill the kids before, during, or after they're born. I really don't see that happening.

    In fact, whenever shows/movies have had Reaver-type societies, I've never understood how the society lasted. Since they're all ready to kill, how do they get along long enough to do anything, let alone fly a damn spaceship? Is someone in charge? Do the "recognize" each other and so don't kill each other? A simple line, "They don't kill their own" would at least "explain" why there's some stability in their society.
  6. David cgc

    David cgc Vice Admiral Premium Member

    Apr 3, 2002
    Well, obviously they don't kill their own. Those ships all have crews. They didn't even kill the guy in "Bushwacked," and he was only potentially one of them. My guess would be that they can recognize people who share their reaction to the Pax chemical, and don't mind them, but it's seeing the ones who would be pacified by it is what drives them into a rage. They probably have some sort of society and order among themselves, though no one would see it since, anyone who tried to observe them would quickly be eaten.
  7. Kibbin

    Kibbin Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Oct 10, 2009
    Actually that sounds like the best answer to it I've heard David and is my new answer to be given out should anybody ask. Not that anybody is likely too, but still.
  8. Gaith

    Gaith Vice Admiral Admiral

    May 11, 2008
    San Francisco, CA
    Aye, this question has been asked several times before... to quote myself: ;)

    David cgc's answer is probably the best in-universe reply we're going to get. My reply is that it shows that Whedon didn't spend any more time thinking about the plot of his movie than he did on sketching the characters therein.