Finished Terok Nor Trilogy (no spoilers)

[Divine]

^ Because that was covered in the episode "Necessary Evil." The idea of this trilogy was to fill in what we don't know.

My memory of the episode is not the best but I thought in "Necessary Evil", he was already the constable and it showed his first assignment.

 

[Christopher]

Nope, "Necessary Evil" showed the events that led to him getting the chief-of-security post. It was his "audition," as it were.

 

[Divine]

Nope, "Necessary Evil" showed the events that led to him getting the chief-of-security post. It was his "audition," as it were.

Guess I have an episode to rewatch tonight

 

[Reanok]

Reading about Dr. Mossett and Yassil they are really evil characters and what they do to the Bajorans is terrible & horrific. The story with Odo so far has been interesting to see more of his backstory with Mora Pol. and the fineline he Pol had to walk with the Cardassians showed what a precarious situation he was in and the danger to his family as well.

 

[C. Cole-Chakotay]

My copies should be in my hands this coming week. After reading this, I'm looking forward to reading them.

 

[Quimby]

^ Because that was covered in the episode "Necessary Evil." The idea of this trilogy was to fill in what we don't know.

One of the things I liked about Dawn of Eagles is they addressed something that always bothered me about Necessary Evil (which is one of my favorite episodes): Not really a spoiler because I don't go into detail but just in case...

Spoiler: "Necessary Evil" and Dawn of Eagles sort of

Basically that epsiode ends with Odo *not* solving the case...I always wondered what Dukat did. Did he round you random Bajorans and execute them like he threatened or what? Now I know (or at least know an interpretation of the events).

I found that I liked the second and third books less than the amazing first book but still they were good reads. As a whole they inspired me to rewatch several epsidoes of the show including the pilot.

 

[Turtletrekker]

I was really surprised by the inclusion of...

Spoiler: guest appearance in "Dawn of the Eagles".

...Elias Vaughn in Dawn of the Eagles. Although some will doubtless cry "small universe syndrome", I really enjoyed his scenes and the small role he played in the history of the Bajoran resistance.

If nothing else, it got me even more excited about the release of Fearful Symmetry.

 

[Reanok]

I'm almost finished reading Dawn of Eagles and I have to say the last few chapters Wow!

Spoiler: Dawn of Eagle spoilers

I was glad to see that Tekenny Ghemore and Esad wanted to warn the Bajorans about the lies that Kell and Dukat wanted to try and and pacify the rebellion on Bajor after the Kendra Valey Massacre. And that Elias Vaughn was angry the federation didn't want to do anything to help the Bajorans and told off Necheyev.Great scene.

I can't wait to find out what happenes next in Feraful Symmetry.Terok Nor is a great series of books.

 

[JD]

Does someothing that happens in Dawn of the Eagles tie into the events of Fearful Symmetry, or are you guys just excited for more DS9 in general?

 

[Smiley]

Not having read any excerpts or blurbs for FS, I didn't see anything in DotE that screamed out, "Connection to the future books!"

Day of the Vipers is easily my favorite of the trilogy. I would give that one a 10/10. The first contact between Bajor and Cardassia and the path to the Occupation is filled with complex, memorable characters. It reminded me in several ways of The Last Days of Krypton, another tale of an inevitable tragedy with a tinge of hope that I very much enjoyed.

The other two books just didn't do as much for me. I like Miras and Kelisi, and the Quark/Odo negotiation in Dawn of the Eagles is classic. However, most of the last two books felt like fleshing out of a story we already know pretty well. They are much more prequel than Lost Era in their approach. The details of the resistance and the regime change on Cardassia Prime have never mattered that much to me, so these two books were fighting an uphill battle from the start. I'd give each of them a 6/10.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Not having read any excerpts or blurbs for FS, I didn't see anything in DotE that screamed out, "Connection to the future books!"

Exactly right. No, the reason DotE hyped me up for FS is the guest star mentioned in both my and Reanok's spoiler posts.

 

[Reanok]

I finally finished the last book yesterday and there was a nice bookend for

Spoiler: Dawn of Eagles spoilers

Darrah Mace and his family we find out that their story has come full circle and I was pleased to see how they tied up their story arc.

I'm excited about Fear ful Symmetry. Over at Trek web they have a story excerpt posted for Fearful Symmetry. after reading this Excerpt I can't wait to get this book!

 

[JD]

Trekweb has....a....OMG! I guess I know where I'm off to now.

 

[Quimby]

Not having read any excerpts or blurbs for FS, I didn't see anything in DotE that screamed out, "Connection to the future books!"

Exactly right. No, the reason DotE hyped me up for FS is the guest star mentioned in both my and Reanok's spoiler posts.

WHile nothing specific happened, I have a feeling that....

Spoiler: Terok Nor Trilogy

The stuff with the Cardassians becoming religious is due to enter the story again

 

[JD]

Actually the Oralian Way has been a pretty big part of the DS9R since A Stitch in Time, where it was first introduced.

 

[RTOlson]

I tend to agree with the sentiment that the first book was a great launch to the series. The second and third books kinda let me down.

Perhaps it's because they were trying to embrace a huge chunk of stories, but the second and third books seemed less coherent than the first book.

Case in point, several key characters for Vipers -- the Darrahs, Jas Holza and even Gar Osen. They seemed to be set up strongly in the first book, but I felt their stories were definitely shoved to the back burner for the other two books.

Still, there were a lot of characters to touch on and I'm glad the authors did address several key points of the Occupation. All-in-all, I enjoyed the series.

 

[Christopher]

Perhaps it's because they were trying to embrace a huge chunk of stories, but the second and third books seemed less coherent than the first book.

Case in point, several key characters for Vipers -- the Maces, Jas Holza and even Gar Osen. They seemed to be set up strongly in the first book, but I felt their stories were definitely shoved to the back burner for the other two books.

Given the scope of the era being covered, you can't really expect the trilogy to tell a single story. Essentially, Day of the Vipers is a prologue to the other two books. It's by a different author and ends 17 years before the second book begins. It's best to think of Terok Nor as a standalone followed by a duology.

 

[JD]

^I think they were even described that way when they were first announced.

 

[bennyrex]

[ Essentially, Day of the Vipers is a prologue to the other two books. It's by a different author and ends 17 years before the second book begins. It's best to think of Terok Nor as a standalone followed by a duology.

Once I realized that, I was able to enjoy it more... I think part of my struggle to get into it was the vastly different nature of the stand alone and the duology. Day of the Vipers was very much it's own story, from beginning to end. There were no major events in the story of that book that were left out. Night and Dawn on the other hand, was essentially a 'fill in the blanks' duology. We were getting aspects of a story we knew the broad strokes to, and elements that we were already familiar with were left out. I'm reminded of the stories I'm reading in 'Prophecy and Change' that weave with episodes of Deep Space Nine. Between paragraph breaks, there would be vast changes in the story that would be quite confusing without knowing what happened in the episode. The story by Terri Osborne about Jake and Ziyal was the one where I felt this the most, but I think some of the other stories did it as well

In Night and Dawn, it's not to the same extreme, but there's information that's given in the TV series that's then left out of the book, and the books don't have the same 'complete' feel that the first one had. Which was unavoidable I think, because as someone said up the thread somewhere, there's no point to having the novels retell what we already know.

 

[RTOlson]

Don't get me wrong. I still enjoyed the books. There was some resolution to the first book in the later chapters, so it was all right.

I don't know. I'm sorta conflicted between the small universe of having all the plots tie together very well and having a few, key stories from the Occupation. I guess we do get both in this series.

Of course, when we're dealing with subject matter as tragic as the Occupation (which, on a planetary scale, is a distruptive event the likes we've never seen on this earth) it's understandable that some things would end relatively senselessly or with little impact on the grand scheme of things.

What I mean is that the Darrahs wouldn't be the center of the story for 60 years if this were real life. And it's understandable that they weren't in this series.