Finished season one

[ZapBrannigan]

According to IMDB, Barbara Luna is "Italian, Hungarian, Spanish, Portuguese and Filipino".
Does that make the kiss count even more?!

William Shatner is part Hungarian, but the real blood they had in common was the greasepaint in their veins.

Sabrina Scharf is not considered a person of color, I'm at least 99 percent sure. But I love her in the role.

If you were planning a major motion picture in 1968, you could take a year to find a real Indian girl and coach her into acting brilliance. But in those days, with so few if any "right age, right looks, right ethnicity, good actress" women to choose from, you probably could not cast an Indian girl to play Miramanee for a rushed weekly TV episode. It would be a great stroke of luck to find her, on those terms, back then.

 

[Forbin]

Regarding "Day Of The Dove" which I really enjoyed btw. When Kirk picks up Chekov and carries him to sickbay, I kept thinking that either Shatner is really strong or Walter Koenig is really light. Either way it reminded me of a father/son-like moment.

It's so obvious that Koening is actually doing half the work in that scene it's hysterical. Shat doesn't pick him up so much as follow along while Walter stands up himself.

 

[Forbin]

If you were planning a major motion picture in 1968, you could take a year to find a real Indian girl and coach her into acting brilliance. But in those days, with so few if any "right age, right looks, right ethnicity, good actress" women to choose from, you probably could not cast an Indian girl to play Miramanee for a rushed weekly TV episode. It would be a great stroke of luck to find her, on those terms, back then.

Oh, they just didn't care in the sixties. The closest they got to casting a non-northern-European-white-guy as an Indian was an Italian or Latin actor. Heck, we got blue-eyed Chuck Connors as Geronimo; Robert Blake and Katherine Ross as Native American lovers in Tell Them Willie Boy Was Here; Julie Newmar as a Hekawie princess on F-Troop... They just didn't care.

 

[Mytran]

True, but Shatner does actually carry him without assistance as well

http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x07hd/dayofthedovehd0935.jpg

 

[Kor]

Who can forget good ol' "Iron Eyes Cody" and the "Keep America Beautiful" PSA? (He was of Italian descent)

And it wasn't just Hollywood.
Toshiro Mifune played an aboriginal Mexican once.... in a Mexican film.

Kor

 

[Maurice]

True, but Shatner does actually carry him without assistance as well

http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x07hd/dayofthedovehd0935.jpg

I love how unconscious Chekov still holds his head up.

 

[ZapBrannigan]

True, but Shatner does actually carry him without assistance as well

http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x07hd/dayofthedovehd0935.jpg

I love how unconscious Chekov still holds his head up.

"Okay, so I'm unconscious. Where's my key-light?"

 

[ZapBrannigan]

If you were planning a major motion picture in 1968, you could take a year to find a real Indian girl and coach her into acting brilliance. But in those days, with so few if any "right age, right looks, right ethnicity, good actress" women to choose from, you probably could not cast an Indian girl to play Miramanee for a rushed weekly TV episode. It would be a great stroke of luck to find her, on those terms, back then.

Oh, they just didn't care in the sixties. The closest they got to casting a non-northern-European-white-guy as an Indian was an Italian or Latin actor. Heck, we got blue-eyed Chuck Connors as Geronimo; Robert Blake and Katherine Ross as Native American lovers in Tell Them Willie Boy Was Here; Julie Newmar as a Hekawie princess on F-Troop... They just didn't care.

I think they did care on Star Trek but had no viable options. The guest stars had to be the right age, sufficiently attractive, have the talent and training to deliver a good performance, and be available on short notice. With Miramanee, the correct ethnicity desired could not be matched.

 

[Melakon]

Regarding "Day Of The Dove" which I really enjoyed btw. When Kirk picks up Chekov and carries him to sickbay, I kept thinking that either Shatner is really strong or Walter Koenig is really light. Either way it reminded me of a father/son-like moment.

It's so obvious that Koening is actually doing half the work in that scene it's hysterical. Shat doesn't pick him up so much as follow along while Walter stands up himself.

That's what actors do, you see it all the time in stage productions. You help the other actor in the scene so he isn't lifting your dead weight. Watch when two guys are carrying an unconscious person with his arms around their shoulders. He's often walking with them. It's general stage courtesy. It can vary in the scene, especially if you know your lower legs are in frame. Watch Shatner after Anan's thugs overpower him in "Armageddon". He's probably helping when they lift him, but lets his legs go limp when they drag him off. And you can bet Walter got to his feet as soon as they were off camera.

 

[Sparkle Fabulosa]

Technically he was on the bed in sickbay when the scene ended. The lifting part was one continuous shot I think.

 

[Melakon]

I watched it a few minutes ago. Kirk lifts him in the corridor, then it cuts to sickbay as they enter. It's not a continuous take, there's even an act break. The two scenes might have been filmed on different days. Kirk does seem to walk right through the spot where the Klingon with Mara fell, though we never see him after Chekov kills him.

 

[Sparkle Fabulosa]

I guess my mind is going in my old age then

 

[Melakon]

I always notice stuff like that, been a theatre, film and television buff since the 1950s.

 

[Forbin]

True, but Shatner does actually carry him without assistance as well

http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x07hd/dayofthedovehd0935.jpg

True! Once Walter climbed up there, Shat had no trouble carrying him.

 

[Sparkle Fabulosa]

So the Maiden Wine song from "Plato's Stepchildren"... It's about sex, right? Because it sounds like it's about sex. Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Forbin]

And Leonard wrote it himself!

 

[Sparkle Fabulosa]

I read that. It's a really nice song and he does a good job. What the heck are bitter dregs though?

 

[Nerys Myk]

I read that. It's a really nice song and he does a good job. What the heck are bitter dregs though?

The last remains of a drink, like coffee.

 

[Sparkle Fabulosa]

I take it that it's not a very common term.

 

[The Old Mixer]

Have you ever heard the term "the dregs of society"? It's a metaphor based on the actual meaning.