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Finally some Tocal Recall footage

For the life of me I cannot understand why people are so unimaginatively rigid in their expectations of films.

Oh no! It's not a carbon copy of something i've already seen or read! How can it possibly be good?!
 
I can't get the trailer to view (just a blank area on the screen). Does this not work with Firefox?

Anyhoo, here is what I assume is the same trailer, but from YouTube:

You might have some no-script elements set to "forbid" certain necessary addresses.

I don't have NoScript.

OK then, there's no helping you. :p

But that's usually my problem when FFx doesn't show an embedded video.
 
For the life of me I cannot understand why people are so unimaginatively rigid in their expectations of films.

Oh no! It's not a carbon copy of something i've already seen or read! How can it possibly be good?!

QFT - anyway Colin Farrell reckons that this new version isn't more faithful to the original story.

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Coli...emake-Won-t-Re-Adapt-Philip-K-Dick-24395.html

I'll be interested to see what Len Wiseman's riff on the original subject matter is like. I don't know how the prominence of his wife's derrière in any trailers will correlate to the quality of the final product. Has anyone done any research on that subject?
 
For the life of me I cannot understand why people are so unimaginatively rigid in their expectations of films.

Oh no! It's not a carbon copy of something i've already seen or read! How can it possibly be good?!

That's a bit of the catch-22 of making a movie based on an existing property. Everyone is going to have different ideas of what makes the core of the property and it's all but impossible to contrast and compare them. Especially for the first film of a book I think many if not most want to see what they read brought to life.
 
Oh no! It's not a carbon copy of something i've already seen or read! How can it possibly be good?!

You're not serious are you? Trek fans were complaining about blue nacells and that they pushed the proverbial reset button with an alternate universe in Trek XI as if the film makers killed someone. ;)

These people are Trek fans? :)

You know what's interesting though - People don't seem the same level of angst over The Walking Dead and that the writers haven't adhered to the comic books verbatim.

I guess comic book adherence isn't as critical to most as it is in film and what we saw on TV.

on topic: the film seems watchable and worth at least a matinee price at the theater.
 
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Oh no! It's not a carbon copy of something i've already seen or read! How can it possibly be good?!

You're not serious are you? Trek fans were complaining about blue nacells and that they pushed the proverbial reset button with an alternate universe in Trek XI as if the film makers killed someone. ;)

These people are Trek fans? :)

You know what's interesting though - I don't seem the same level of angst over The Walking Dead and that the writers haven't adhered to the comic books verbatim.

I guess comic book adherence isn't as critical to most as it is in film and what we saw on TV.
Hmmmmm....Not so sure about Comics not mattering as much, I've seen some ugly complaints about Superhero movies, which originate in Comics.

But, yea, The Walking Dead is surprisingly free of "Not Like the Comic Book" complaints, thankfully.
 
Okay: here's my thinking:

I was originally against this remake. (No Arnold, no Mars?? What the heck. No one else can play Cohagen.. et.)

The thing is the original film is a great film. Arnold had made an interesting progression. He went steadily from making simple action films by incrementally adding a bit more to each successive film, be it commentary on pop culture (Running Man) or intelligent science fuiction (Total REcall) while never forgetting that his fans came to see him kick ass, shoot gunss, and deliver corny one-liners as only he can. Total Recall represented the peak of his action movie career, he picked an intelligent script, and he was still able to deliver a film his fans felt comfortable watching and escaping into. The film also represented the peak of model photography, makeup, puppetry, and motion control shots that would, soon after, become phased out in favor of CGI and much of what was shown here was the assemblage of the greatest talents in each of these departments had to offer. Sure, these techniques had been used since, but Total Recall seems to a swan song of (almost) entirely tangible effects, all brought to bear to bring this awesome story to life, and to immerse us into a whole new setting (Mars) that we can get lost in for a couple of hours). What a great film.

But, even still, it is very much a product of the time. I am growing to want to see this film... I love science fiction mysteries. Certainly, they pique my fancy more than superhero films do.. no matter how many moral dilemmas you throw into them.) And, while Mars might not feature into this film, I was impressed with the cityscapes that I am seeing in this clip. I can imagine that, if done with care, the settings can be as immersive as the settings in the original film. I would love to get lost in the world of a futuristic city with flying cars for a few hours, backed up by an intriguing mystery with a lot of questions about reality and identity. That's how I want to spend my time in a theater. Better that an an overedited and needlessly complex story anbout a guy that wants to be Batman but also is trying to convince himself to quit. Ye I want to see that too, but honestly, I'm tired of it. Here is a chance to have an intriguing example of a cool film with a bit of intelligence behind it. That's why I like I, Robot better than most. It is not perfect, and not as good as it could have been, but it is the type of film I'd like see more of. Here it is.

Yeah, I want to see it.
 
My only concern is that it'll be an undistinguished flick like Paycheck, Imposter, or The Adjustment Bureau - all PKD-derived - and leave no real lasting impression on the viewer. My opinion is that an ideal film adaptation of a PKD story should make you feel fundamentally unsettled - perhaps about the nature of your individuality in particular or reality in general. Total Recall 1990 was fine as an Arnie flick, and it had a little of the philosophical questioning of identity and reality, but it was mostly about "stuff blowing up good". I probably expect too much, and I'm really much more shallow than I think I am.
 
The teaser trailer is live now.

Looks good but, I dunno. Somehow missing the Mars element (which I know isn't in the original story) seems to make the movie sort of missing a "spark" of "must see." But then this movie adds in a Kate Beckinsale, so...
 
That trailer is ridiculous. It tells the whole story. No point in going to the film now.
 
Of course it does. But alot of the same beats are there from the original movie so if youre familiar with that story, you'll be familiar with this. I wonder how they'll end it though. There will be no Martian reactor to restart Mars' atmosphere. Or will there be? :vulcan:
 
I liked it. What I didn't like is having troops show up at Rekall with guns drawn.

The original film had a good idea going whee it took a while to realize that things were amiss
 
I liked it. What I didn't like is having troops show up at Rekall with guns drawn.

The original film had a good idea going whee it took a while to realize that things were amiss

I was thinking the same thing. Odd that this movie seems to have even more macho shit than the Arnie version except more Bourne-ish.

I'm curious how the is/isn't it real business will play out, it seemed more natural with Mars.
 
I got five kids to feed!

Give these people eyre!

Start the reactor, free Mars!

Howdy stranger, this is Hauser!

What the FUCK did I do wrong?!

Baby, you make me wish I had three hands!



... just some of the reasons why there's no way I'm gonna be able to take this film seriously. Love the original, as all my friends, and I think we're planning on going to see, knowing it will be shite, and just quoting from the '90 version all the way through it.

"Sue me, dickhead"
 
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The teaser is a lot better than the pre-teaser. First off, fewer Star Wars-esque moments (though, seriously, the speeder stuff, the jumping out of windows, and the trooper uniforms totally remind me of AOTC), and secondly, enough footage to give an idea of the differences in feel between the Arnie version and this one. I'm a big fan of the Arnie version, but this teaser has done its job of making me put that to one side in order to generate some interest as to this version.
 
Well, the teaser didn't tell the whole story. Bryan Cranston was only in it for two seconds!

But, yeah, it looks goods. I'm just not sure what it will have to offer that the Verhoeven version doesn't. Maybe they'll sneak in some more satire that was changed in the '90s version? (I'm thinking of the scene where Arnie is stopped at the checkpoint because he's carrying; in the original script, he's stopped because he -- unlike everyone else -- forgot his weapon.)
 
Hopefully this will trigger a new release of the original. The Blu-Ray I have looks worse than the Dark Shadows episodes on Netflix. Thankfully I paid less than $5 for it but still.
 
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