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Films are always about the same guys

I mean I'm not disagreeing with you, but at least VOY got a couple references on Simpsons. DS9 or ENT never even got that.
Not on Simpsons, no, but Family Guy did do a DS9 joke once.
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I always felt they should do a "Avengers" type of Trek. Well this was even before the first "Avengers" movie but you get the point. Take classic and favorite characters from each show and have a Avenger. One idea for example would be a Rescue Spock movie were Romulans are the bad guys. Picard,Data and Worf team up Kira,Garak O"Brien.O'Brien Seven, EMH and Tuvok to go into Romulan space to rescue him using two ships they buy from Quark. One ship goes to this alien planet where Spock might be and has some new aliens we have never seen before. The other involves a space battle with this Romulan ship under the command of big movie star ROmulan like Daniel Craig as they try and get to Romulus and see if they can find him their and beam him up. The missions collide and at the end they do rescue Spock.

Well, it may not be the same, but the current "Star Trek" comic by IDW Publishing is doing just that. There is a crisis going on, and Sisko asks for the help of several people: Data, Montgomery Scott, Sato, Tom Paris, T'Lir, and Beverly Crusher.

There was nobody from the Cerritos, but I like to think that he asked Shaxs for help, and he said "Don't talk to me! I'm pissed off!"
 
Well, it may not be the same, but the current "Star Trek" comic by IDW Publishing is doing just that. There is a crisis going on, and Sisko asks for the help of several people: Data, Montgomery Scott, Sato, Tom Paris, T'Lir, and Beverly Crusher.

There was nobody from the Cerritos, but I like to think that he asked Shaxs for help, and he said "Don't talk to me! I'm pissed off!"

Sounds interesting. Of course I recall them doing this before as well also in the comics. I can't recall the details but I have a vague memory of Dr Crusher meeting Odan again on DS9 and also a cross comic book story that involved the Dominion War or and Charlie X. It even had the Starfleet Cadets from that comic series coming to DS9.
 
I think by the time of Enterprise, the zeitgeist stopped giving a crap about Star Trek. The movies had become too uninspired & the shows had lost anything that had mass appeal. I doubt anyone but a fan could tell you who the hell Jonathan Archer even is, but Picard & Data? Kirk & Spock? Those are the brand's marquee properties (& a few others maybe)

Frankly, when you see a nod on The Simpsons/Futurama/Family Guy etc... Those guys are nerds like us, they're pretty well inside the core fan base imho
 
Every Star Trek movie I ever went to, there was a packed theater.... except for Nemesis.

I was in college at the time, I went to go see it with some of my Trekkie friends (all TNGers) and my brother. After First Contact, I thought the TNG Movies were really going to be something great overall. Then Insurrection ruined that. Then I stopped watching Voyager. Then Ron Moore spilled his guts. Then Enterprise came on and I tuned out almost immediately. My expectations for Nemesis were at an all-time low.

Those super-jaded fans you see now who want nothing to do with Kurtzman Trek and won't even give it a fair chance? Back in 2002, that was me. (So for all you people who are at where I was back then, I'm here to tell you: however jaded and cynical you are now, it'll pass. I know it doesn't look like it right now, but it will.)

So, anyway, the group of us, we went to go into the theater -- on opening night, mind you -- and the theater was only half full. At the end of it, I came out of the theater thinking the film was total shit. I wouldn't even look at it again for another seven years. My brother and my friends weren't too thrilled about the film either. Although one of them said, "It wasn't that bad!" That doesn't exactly mean he thought it was that good either.

And yeah. Back then, as far as I was concerned, the TNG Movies couldn't have been done fast enough.

TNG was the most popular of the Star Trek series from the Berman Era. If even TNG couldn't do well at the Box Office, forget about DS9, VOY, or ENT. So the only way they could do another Star Trek movie, after that, was to reboot TOS. Which they did. They could reboot TNG now too, now that we're distanced enough from Nemesis. Or, rather, they could do another Star Trek movie in general at all, if they could finally get their business together on the film side of things.
 
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I have always felt that the reason why TOS and TNG have been the most popular with general audiences was lack of competition.

In TOS' case, it was the only crew in the franchise for 20 years.

In TNG's case, there were very few scifi shows on the air during its first few years, and TNG only had TOS as the other show in the franchise for over 5 years.
Also, I think people forget TNG didn't have competition from the other space opera juggernaut either, Star Wars was essentially dead for almost 15 years after Return of the Jedi.
 
Well, Voyager has an ace in the hole to lure people to the theaters: a female Star Trek captain.
 
I have noticed that the films are always about the same characters: either the original series, or the Next Generation ones. Or the reboot films, which are the original series but recasted.

But Star Trek had more series, and great actors with them. Deep Space 9, Voyager, Enterprise, Discovery, Strange New Worlds... Why wasn't there a film for any of them?
We should have a movie with a black lady!

**Crickets**

Anyone? Bueller?

:vulcan:
 
Well, Voyager has an ace in the hole to lure people to the theaters: a female Star Trek captain.

No. A female captain wouldn't be "an ace in the hole" especially after Voyager ended it's run. It's not because Kirk's a man....at least not entirely, but because he's more of a household name than Janeway is....period.

People won't give a shit if someone tries to tell them they should see a Star Trek movie just because the Captain's a woman.
 
Films are always about the same guys

Yep. Understandable during the TOS era since TOS was always the Kirk, Spock, McCoy show. But TNG was always an ensemble series. The TNG movies could have focused on more than just Picard and Data. Hell, that focus even pushed into the first two seasons of PIC
 
No. A female captain wouldn't be "an ace in the hole" especially after Voyager ended it's run. It's not because Kirk's a man....at least not entirely, but because he's more of a household name than Janeway is....period.

While I wouldn't call it an "ace in the hole" (mainly because I find that expression about as trite as calling a movie/show/episode a "love letter"/"valentine") a science fiction movie advertised as having a badass female lead would most certainly draw an audience. It wouldn't matter who that female lead is, but it would certainly be a draw.
 
I mean I'm not disagreeing with you, but at least VOY got a couple references on Simpsons. DS9 or ENT never even got that.

Futurama's film "Bender's Game" has a demolition derby with spaceships. In one scene we had TOS's Enterprise, piloted by the head of George Tarkei, ramming against ENT's Enterprise, piloted by the head of Scott Bakula.

"Way to kill off the franchise, Bakula!"
 
Futurama's film "Bender's Game" has a demolition derby with spaceships. In one scene we had TOS's Enterprise, piloted by the head of George Tarkei, ramming against ENT's Enterprise, piloted by the head of Scott Bakula.

"Way to kill off the franchise, Bakula!"

Futurama was a lot nerdier though and made references to a lot more and more obscure Sci-fi media.
 
In response to the title of this thread: If we get Streaming Films, then they won't always be about the same people. ;)
 
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