Fear the Walking Dead Season 4 discussion and spoilers.

[Evil Twin]

In fact, I liked the episode so much that I decided to go back and watch season 3. Watched that first episode of S3 last night, and wow! What a great episode, too! Does anyone have any strong feelings about season 3? Is it worth the watch?

I bailed on the show after season 2, but decided to bite the bullet and binge watched season 3 on Hulu this past week. The first two thirds of it are pretty meh, but the last five or so episodes are pretty solid. Episode 13 in particular I thought was fantastic and a great episode for Alicia. Probably my favorite FTWD episode.

That being said however, I'm glad they went with a soft reboot for season 4 and I'll be sticking around for it.

 

[Burning Hearts of Qo'nos]

^I've gotten through to episode 5 so far, and maybe its because I haven't had any Walking Dead in my life for the last year, but its been great! My roommate and I were shocked how interesting its been when we were use to being so bored with it. I feel like the characters and writing (while not absolutely perfect) strike a much more realistic chord than the parent series. And I've come to like Jake, so I won't be tuning into season 4 until I've properly finished season 3, because I don't want to be spoiled if he dies and I find out offhand.

 

[General_Phoenix]

I can't help but think a show about Morgan traveling across America during a Zombie apocalypse would have made a fun mini series. Going to different areas, the people he encountered, and how people adapted to survive.

So...is Morgan joining Fear the equivalent of Worf joining DS9?

 

[Noname Given]

I can't help but think a show about Morgan traveling across America during a Zombie apocalypse would have made a fun mini series. Going to different areas, the people he encountered, and how people adapted to survive.

So...is Morgan joining Fear the equivalent of Worf joining DS9?

I think so - it's definitely a move designed to try and up the overall show ratings and try and stir interest in more TWD viewers who may have passed on the series at some point. (Worf was brought to STS9 in its Season 4 for similar reasons and to try and get the TNG crowd to give the show another look.)

 

[JD]

This was a pretty good intro to the post time jump set up.
I like their community they've set up in the baseball stadium, that definitely more interesting than another town.
It was interesting seeing how they approached Naomi vs how they approached Morgan, John, and Aly. It'll be interesting to see just how bad things got with Mel and his guys that it drove them to where they are now.
Mel seems like he'll be an interesting bad guy. Maybe not quite at the level of The Governor or Negan, but still interesting.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

So, did Charlie bring in the weevils?

 

[The Wormhole]

So, did Charlie bring in the weevils?

I doubt it. It's more likely something that would have happened anyway.

 

[Turd Ferguson]

*SIIIIIGGGGGHHHHHHHH!* I was pretty stoked about this season with the introductions of Morgan, John Dorie and Althea bringing some fresh voices to the story. But, already Gimple is starting to fuck things up with the "BEFORE" and "NOW" sequences and the introduction of Negan and the Saviors rip offs "Mel and the Vultures"

I'm going to keep watching, hoping that we're supposed to think Mel's a big bad only to get taken out like a punk in a couple of episodes.

 

[The Wormhole]

But, already Gimple is starting to fuck things up with the "BEFORE" and "NOW" sequences

That's jumping the gun a bit. The "Before" and "Now" was just how this week's episode was structured as it basically allowed us to catch up with the Clarkes and what they've been up to as leading up to the point where their story and Morgan's merge. Presumably next week will continue the present day narrative.

 

[Turd Ferguson]

Yeah, but Gimple's subjected us to this shit for years, and I don't think it's a coincidence that Fear the Walking Dead has avoided this crap until the second episode under his watch.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

I can't help but think a show about Morgan traveling across America during a Zombie apocalypse would have made a fun mini series. Going to different areas, the people he encountered, and how people adapted to survive.

They got a name for that...

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[Morpheus 02]

*SIIIIIGGGGGHHHHHHHH!* I was pretty stoked about this season with the introductions of Morgan, John Dorie and Althea bringing some fresh voices to the story. But, already Gimple is starting to fuck things up with the "BEFORE" and "NOW" sequences and the introduction of Negan and the Saviors rip offs "Mel and the Vultures"

I'm going to keep watching, hoping that we're supposed to think Mel's a big bad only to get taken out like a punk in a couple of episodes.

The thing is...we NEED those flashbacks...I mean they skipped AT LEAST a year...so we need SOME meat behind it. It is too bad they didn't use Abraham in there... The Clarkea wpuld have been a great reason for Abraham's family to leave and chance it on their own

 

[Turd Ferguson]

I don't have a problem with the occasional flashback episode or two, especially with a big time jump like FtWD just did, but if they use it as a constant "narrative" device like The Walking Dead does every other episode, then that's when I have a huge problem with it.

 

[Morpheus 02]

DO we know what happened to Daniel?

i hope in the last season that anyone who survived the Clarks will come back and confront them (though Tobias might be the one to show mercy)

 

[The Wormhole]

DO we know what happened to Daniel?

No, and everyone's being cagey about him. The new Fear producers are promising we haven't seen the last of him, though actor Garret Dillahunt (John Dorie) denies Ruben Blades was on set. Here's an article on the matter:
http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/fear-t...ead-season-4-spoilers-daniel-salazar-missing/

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Fear the Walking Dead--
"Good Out Here"

Morgan: "I'm not worried." regarding Nick being a threat. What a treat to see him knock Nick around.
Err..leaving the armored van because the horn was stuck sounding off? Try opening up the hood and disconnecting it, which is the wise option as opposed to traveling on foot trying to avoid the walkers, who would never be able to break into the van.

Nick: Nick barely has any fighting skill. Surviving on luck after all this time? Anyway, so he's explained why he did not want to go outside of the stadium, which supports his manipulative lines with Morgan (calling Morgan out on not killing, or doing what it takes to stop Nick), just to kill Mel's Vulture brother. Oh, well. I know the showrunners were trying to make some sort of poetic bookend of Nick trying to connect with/save Charlie only to have her be the one to murder him, but she's walking around like she's sort of looney half of the time, and utterly untrustworthy, so I do not really care about her being the one to kill Nick. By the way, Morgan giving Nick his book telegraphed the fact Nick was not going go be around ling enough to change as a person.

Althea: Her seemingly self-serving obsession with "getting the story" is a bit annoying (mirrors many in today's news media), and is also bordering on being a copy+paste of the idiotic videographer character in Romero's Diary of the Dead (2007) who insisted on recording everything as some sort of "important" record, even at the expense of not helping his companions survive.

Madison: Every season has Madison killing everyone she feels is a threat to her family. If she finds out Charlie murdered her son, will the showrunners have her forgive the child, or take the usual Madison route, I wonder.

Mel, Charlie and The Vultures: If the intention was meant to paint Mel as a full-on ass, it succeeded.
Like Enid before her, Charlie has a connection to a series main character, but has some unspoken past business preventing her from fully connecting to those who thought they were saving her, only now, she's got the "young killer" edge like the girl from TWD's Oceanside.


NOTES: Editing error: the tow truck's tires started smoking from the tow before the cable actually pulled the van.

 

[shivkala]

Well, Fear the Walking Dead has now fixed my biggest problem with it: Nick. I've never liked his character and Chris Hardwick and others on Talking Dead constantly putting him up on a pedestal did not help. Every season he's found someone to be his role model, someone who shouldn't be anyone's role model (Strand might just have been the best of the bunch), changed his habits to be more like them, did dumb stuff that threatened everyone, and been treated like the ultimate survivor throughout it all. If I heard another variation of "Nick's become the ultimate survivor! If anyone can survive out here, it's Nick," followed by Nick doing something that threatened everyone again, I was going to lose it.

Granted, Morgan would have been the best of the role models and, if he didn't go crazy (again), a good influence on Nick. It might have helped Morgan, too, as he seems to be in search of someone he can train, as Eastman did for him. Before Nick, true to form, screwed things up and left Morgan for dead, there was a moment where I thought, "Maybe Morgan can make Nick a character I like." That, of course, ended pretty quickly and made Nick's death more satisfying for me.

Nick's been a dead weight dragging the show down for so long. Honestly, for those who watch The Walking Dead, he's what would happen if Eugene and Gabriel had a child with all of their flaws and none of their virtues, then the show decided to make that child a main character.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Ah yes. Checkov's Antlers

 

[Enterprise is Great]

Bye bye Nick. Frank Dillane wanted off the show: http://tvline.com/2018/04/29/fear-t...n-4-episode-3-nick-dies-frank-dillane-leaving I was actually thinking that Madison was going to die. When I first heard the shot I thought someone shot her in that field. I got the impression that Nick wanted to kill that Savior -- er I mean Vulture because he had killed his mother.

 

[General_Phoenix]

Morgan was giving Nick some The Last Jedi words of wisdom there, but of course Nick wouldn't heed the warning. Was surprised Morgan kept the horn blairing on the SWAT truck.

I suppose when you see anyone driving an El Camino, you instinctively know they are up to no good.

Was a bit surprised that Nick died, just because I figured he had plot armor for awhile longer. Then again I keep forgetting this is the 4th season.

Was chuckling when Morgan was smacking Nick around. I would have enjoyed an episode of just that to be honest.

As perdicted Morgan is the only interesting character.