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Fear the Walking Dead Season 1 discussion and spoilers.

But FTWD--being the beginning of it all--is skipping over that for what reason? Are they trying to avoid costly location shooting and mass make-up jobs (or CG zombie armies)?

That's another thing I've been wondering. It makes sense that huge population centers like LA, New York, Atlanta, etc. would fall pretty fast considering the sheer number of zombies/potential zombies.

..and if Atlanta demanded napalm, why not Los Angeles--if not for a stronger military ground response?

Maybe season two will see Travis and Madison reaching the desert, or perhaps a small town where most of its denizens are card-carrying concealed weapons enthusiasts with itchy trigger fingers that would keep the zombie apocalypse at bay for a while longer.

The desert--if equipped with adequate supplies--would do well for some time. The only problem with that is others--fleeing the city in great numbers--would end up flooding the desert, mountain areas, etc. I see that turning into a survivalist / Deliverance nightmare situation almost overnight, not to mention Terminus reactions springing up.

So, there's no real safe zone, only areas where you might buy yourself more time. Even Grady Memorial situations are near impossible anywhere around major cities, as they would be the first structures to be exhausted, or taken over by the state.
 
I'm not talking about the abuse conversation at all. Not sure what it has to do with your, and yours alone, idea that Hollywood has some agenda to portray a white druggy teenager differently from another ethnicity.
 
^that's been my contention with the whole ZA thing to begin with: large population centers like LA would just be total dead zones, nowhere anywhere nearby to be safe. Far too big a population, so going to spread fast, and even the folks escaping will just overrun anything useful. Plus, without power propping it up, it's kinda a dead wasteland on its own. We've prettied it up, but it's mostly barren desert. And FTWD is a couple years back, when they had a tiny bit of water...
 
The whole show seems desperate to catch up with the parent show. That's not what I thought we were getting (prequel!) but it seems clear that they have no interest in exploring the very thing that they hinted they would be exploring (pre-apocalypse).

OK fine but if that's the case then get on with it. I don't care about these soap opera family problems. I might have been willing to care had the show been a proper prequel and explored the outbreak but since it isn't, I don't. So get on with it.

If you're just another zombie survival show then own that. If you're just Walking Dead:LA then say so.

And get on with it!
 
One way or the other, yes. Now we're a zombie show that's not showing the breakdown of society/outbreak, and had ZERO zombies last week as well. Not really doing either thing well :)
 
{{{{{SLAM!}}}}}

The^sound of all the interest I gained after episode 3, storming out the door.

That episode caught me hook, line and sinker, it was all I could think about last week. I was convinced it had found its footing and was going to hit the ground running for the remainder of the season. But now, after this weeks load of crap, I'm back to barely caring again.[/rant]

A small bit of potential goodness from this one - the pool scene, it may be a clue when combined with the appearance of the opening sequence title card which features some sort of *fluid* splashing from the top and running downwards interspersed with bubbles. Blood? Water? Both?

"Enjoy your swim."
 
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Clearly, seeing as you felt the need to comment on it.

Did I hurt your poor ickle show. Aww didums.

Would you like me to kiss it better?
 
One way or the other, yes. Now we're a zombie show that's not showing the breakdown of society/outbreak, and had ZERO zombies last week as well. Not really doing either thing well :)

Before E5 airs, it looks like the series is dealing with zombies the much in the same way as the parent series after S3: zombies are not the focus, and only show up as a sideline threat that never lasts long. It is the soap opera that takes center stage.

I wonder how a group of untrained people are going to believably face off against the military (suggested in the preview), because they are the real on-screen "threat," not the zombies.


...until the zombies show up only to get rid of the series redshirts, then go back to "people are the real threat" routine.
 
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Seems like they should at least throw one per episode in, though, just to remind people it's a zombie show. I may have forgotten already, but can't think of a WD episode that had zero zombies, even if they clearly weren't the focus...
 
I honestly don't mind if there are zero zombies in an episode. I was actually kind of hoping that they'd be a bit more sparing in this show, but I knew that they'd have to put at least one in the pilot.

Realistically, in a military controlled camp where they are being very watchful over those who have potential to die, there really shouldn't be that much threat of zombies. They've cleared a radius around their safe zone, so at that point the focus really should be on the human interaction. Humans being shitty is the biggest reason that the military would go down in the face of something like this.

That's the reason the show is called Fear the Walking Dead. It's not about being scared of zombies, it's about what Daniel said when referring to the events in El Salvador. People are to be feared when there's a breakdown in society, particularly the military. Although the part about big bad military assholes is pretty cliche by now.
 
Rick said that they are the Walking Dead, not the Zombies.

I'm guessing that that still holds, even retroactively?
 
So far, I'm finding this show a bit boring. At least, in TWD, we had a central character to root for, to see things through his eyes, and he was a fairly likable guy--back then, anyway. And right from the start---bam!--stuff was happening.

But here? I don't really like any of the characters that much, already know what they're facing and so, not much has really happened. So...we're not off to a good start.
 
I honestly don't mind if there are zero zombies in an episode.

I mind when there's only six episodes in the season, and they're already pulling a Herschel's farm zombie-free episode. Especially when it would have been nice to see how we make the transition from one or two zombies mingling around in a riot to an entire city full of them.
 
Yeah, the "nine days later" bit was definitely a narrative mistake. They skipped the most interesting and mysterious part of the premise.
 
^^ Not at the moment, no. Tomorrow night, though. ;)

I finally realized why Travis seems so familiar. He reminds me of Judd Hirsch.
 
Kinda have a problem with the "one or two zombie" thing. What's the population of greater LA area? multiple millions. They're now mostly zombies. There should be a metric shit-ton of them, not one or two.

Realistically, anywhere near LA is a bad place to put a zombie show; no one is surviving that. Just going to be overwhelmed.
 
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