I want to see a spin-off set 20 years in the future when people start coming out of their bomb shelters.
Fear the Walking Dead Season 1 discussion and spoilers.
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We can call it 'Blast from the Past' and it can star Brendan Fraser!
I'm sure the bigwigs at AMC are dreaming about that. They managed to get themselves a Breaking Bad spinoff/prequel, but very few shows lend themselves as well to spinoffs as TWD. They can dream up zombie stories from all over the globe.
I've wanted to see a ZA Anthology since Dawn of the Dead came out. World War Z kind of fit the bill.
i'd love to see that too, especially if they couduse the styles and skills and of course locations around the world.
now, something out of Bollywood would NOT need music & dance number, but it could be an interesting take.
Zombie Day at the Cannes Film Festival. 
...so you must add real world death patterns to justify how quickly it can spread / foil efforts to contain it. With the L.A. death stats coming into play to serve as a base number for FTWD, zombies would spread and attack due to the kinds of deaths not readily reported, or even discovered.
In other words, of the 57,000+ deaths in a year (in reality), every one of those deaths--transferred to the WD fictional world--would return as a zombie, unless the cause of death destroyed the head or body to point where reanimation is impossible. Imagine nearly 60,000 zombies in Los Angeles county--the infection would spread overnight, even if the government (and their containment crews) were fully aware of what was happening.
At this point, the informed military should be able to avoid wasting time (or ammunition) with efficient canvassing of neighborhoods and city streets, but eventually, the random nature of death--and how all will not be standing in plain sight to kill--will overwhelm forces.
That said, the one thing FTWD gets right is the effort to quarantine areas, so at least the infected living cannot flee in all directions, when their own fear robs them of common sense.
The only thing that continues to annoy me as I watch is the lack of TV watching by the characters. Any realistic depiction of this situation would have characters glued to the news channels looking for information.
It's like someone living in Florida during the approach of a hurricane never bothering to check the weather channel.
It's like someone living in Florida during the approach of a hurricane never bothering to check the weather channel.
I hadn't noticed that, but you're right, and it definitely is weird. We did see some of the kids at the school watching the news footage of the attack on the highway on their phones. These days a lot of people would also be getting their news from the internet, either on their computers or their phones/tablets. Other than the footage from the highway attack and occasional texting we haven't really seen people doing much with their phones either. I'm thinking this is all probably an attempt to keep the characters in the dark about what is happening, but it is kind of unrealistic.
I dunno, it could just be they're not "TV people" and it's only recently reached a breaking point (namely the large riot the started in Ep2) until recently and even then it seems things are still simmering. In my re-watch of the latest episode there was some radio-chatter of similar civil unrests in other states, or something about higher-than-average sickness due to "the flu" that's going around.
But it was only with the last episode and the riots that things seem to have reached their breaking point and we saw how unstable the power grid was so it could be listening to the radio and/or TV isn't possible since either you're without power to do it or the broadcaster is.
Which brings me to:
In this past episode the power in the house was coming and going, unstable. When Travis and his entourage were driving to Madison's house we see a great, dramatic, shot of the lights of all of LA going off in the distance. When watching this scene originally I thought it was a powerful scene as it was showing the end of civilization here, as the city falls to blackness forever.
But by the end of the episode it still seems like in some level or another civilization is "operating," so was that just another "brown-out" like Madison's home had been experiencing this entire time? Or did the lights really go out forever?
And it makes me wonder what's going in at the power stations for the entire grid to collapse at once but for Madison's power to just be unstable.
But the characters don't know if the broadcasters are having problems, since they haven't checked the TV. It just doesn't ring as very true to the situation for no one to be at least taking a turn around the channels when the power is on.
It's actually one of the best moments in the Dawn of the Dead remake when we see them sitting in front of the TV's taking it all in.
It is clear that the lack of TV means there is a forced media shutdown, which also "helps" the plot keep the characters ignorant of how widespread the ZA is (and help$ the producer$ avoid $hooting fake news report$).
Episode 4 of Fear the Dysfunctional Family Soap Opera Posing as a Horror Survival Series:
Meredith is a terrible character. But I know, I know, she's one of the current trend of "Angry power-mouth / combative / biting = assertive confident" BS characters on TV, but there's no excuse for the assbrained stunts--or bad attitude. On the one hand, she's bitter that Travis brought his ex, kid and those who SAVED HIM to the house (the daughter actually made sense this week about their domestic bickering...until...). Anyway, she's bitter about everything, and her fence cutting expedition to follow the camera idiot's guess is--without a doubt--bolting to the #1 spot on the "Most Stupid, Life Threatening Character Decisions in Walking Dead History." list.
What was going to do with no training or weapons? Spew more angry crap at zombies? The soldiers? Such a poorly constructed character--and the season is close to the finale.
She only gets one credit: for slapping the shit out of the worthless addict. He steals scarce meds for a truly ill man to get his fix. Everyone in that neighborhood needs to sign up for that slapping duty.
Wait a second....angry power-mouth Meredith beats the crap out of the addict...but loses it when the army takes him away for treatment--all because the barber told some very subjective story about what happened when he was a kid? My, she certainly runs every end of the meter. If the addict was not carried off, what kind of relationship did she expect with addict after beating his ass? As if there was not enough General Hospital in that house, it would have been explosive. Now that he's gone, and his sister knows about the abuse, maybe she will do the audience a favor and push Meredith into a pack of zombies....or soldiers.
By the way...GO Army!!
...but we know the doctor will likely see some "abuse," turn on the military, and set the addict loose to return the dizzy-eyed, vomiting "hero" of the show.
Episode 4 of Fear the Dysfunctional Family Soap Opera Posing as a Horror Survival Series:
Meredith is a terrible character. But I know, I know, she's one of the current trend of "Angry power-mouth / combative / biting = assertive confident" BS characters on TV, but there's no excuse for the assbrained stunts--or bad attitude. On the one hand, she's bitter that Travis brought his ex, kid and those who SAVED HIM to the house (the daughter actually made sense this week about their domestic bickering...until...). Anyway, she's bitter about everything, and her fence cutting expedition to follow the camera idiot's guess is--without a doubt--bolting to the #1 spot on the "Most Stupid, Life Threatening Character Decisions in Walking Dead History." list.
What was going to do with no training or weapons? Spew more angry crap at zombies? The soldiers? Such a poorly constructed character--and the season is close to the finale.
She only gets one credit: for slapping the shit out of the worthless addict. He steals scarce meds for a truly ill man to get his fix. Everyone in that neighborhood needs to sign up for that slapping duty.
Wait a second....angry power-mouth Meredith beats the crap out of the addict...but loses it when the army takes him away for treatment--all because the barber told some very subjective story about what happened when he was a kid? My, she certainly runs every end of the meter. If the addict was not carried off, what kind of relationship did she expect with addict after beating his ass? As if there was not enough General Hospital in that house, it would have been explosive. Now that he's gone, and his sister knows about the abuse, maybe she will do the audience a favor and push Meredith into a pack of zombies....or soldiers.
By the way...GO Army!!
...but we know the doctor will likely see some "abuse," turn on the military, and set the addict loose to return the dizzy-eyed, vomiting "hero" of the show.
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I don't think that it's impossible for a mother to be abusive toward her son, but still be upset if he's taken away. It might seem contradictory, but it's definitely realistic human behavior.
That said, I really don't like Madison. Or Travis. Or pretty much most of the characters on this show. I think TWD had enough issue with making interesting, likable characters, but FTWD... I just can't like any of these people. I kinda just want them all to die.
The problem is that she's doing the attacking / concerned crap at just about everyone, and her slapping of Addict-Lad, then playing concerned mother is the kind of behavior that--in some real world situations--leads to human services removing kids from the parent's home, as it considered abusive.
I agree, and their "suffering" does not make their obnoxious, moronic behavior easier to tolerate. FTWD is looking more and more like a cash grab, not a need to tell stories.
Just what I was thinking. Just because she thinks her son is a selfish idiot taking the medicine from the man to get his fix doesn't mean she can't be upset when he's wrongfully taken away.
No walkers this week, as noted, but I think the series is still going a long nicely and staying interesting. Though it feels like we missed something somewhere on how the city was "evacuated/abandoned" and we're in martial law territory now.
We're pretty much told the military hasn't been forthcoming about information, so how do people accept that a city filled with millions of people is now just abandoned? Was the riot really that bad to not only kill (and turn) a good portion of the population but to consume the city to the level the military had to completely take it over and either kill people or set them up in camps?
God, with his pseudo-Sunset Boulevard opening, I knew this episode was really going to push over the edge with Nick and, sure enough, it did. How are we really supposed to take and accept this character? It's one thing to take the rough, red-neck, anger-filled, character that was Darryl in TWD:TOS and turn him into the Zombie Apocalypse, Internet Legend, Batman and to even give his even more red-neckier brother a decent redemption but how are they going to do this with some weaselly little opiate-addicted asshole who breaks into a neighbor's house, takes his morphine drip (he needs to be pain-free due to whatever his condition was) and injects it between his damn toes?!
He's beyond redemption now, as far as I'm concerned. Survival Rating now in negative numbers, he's going to get his flesh eaten when he sees a walker with a tourniquet around it's arm and the needle syringe still in.
I think Ex-Wife got used, big time, and it's not making her look good at all. Still really like Barber Shop Dad.
I'm not as bothered by Madison as everyone else seems to be, she seems to be learning pretty quickly. Travis is slipping big time, his survival rating is going back towards to low-end of the spectrum is naivety is going to be his undoing if he doesn't wise-up quick, maybe seeing the light will help?
Daughter? Meh. I'm guessing she was tatt-ing her BF's Sharpie Rose?
Estranged Son? Also meh. It's funny how he tells Travis about the light and Travis is all, "eh it's the sun." Why didn't ES say, "so the sun reflected back a series of flashes in an apparent Morse Code fashion right after I flashed light, and it did with all of the angles and timing perfectly?"
Eerie scene in the street and I think this is the first time in the franchise we've seen a character react or retch to the smell of the walkers/dead. (Excluding the Atlanta group's reactions to opening up the bodies for camouflage which Rick and Glenn wore easily without much reaction.)
Money on the hole in the fence Madison made being the breach point that'll let some walkers in to see the fall of this safe zone?
Okay episode, still like the series, but I really wonder where the season is going to end as far as "escalating" things to something of a "can't wait for next season!" point.
And, again, fuck Nick.
Great episode.
So much for anybody trusting the army. Though I think that was pretty clear by the time we saw Captain Golf Ball. Shady ass doctor is about as untrustworthy as you can get. I felt bad for druggie son being taken away, but that's some instant karma after stealing the sick old guy's morphine.
Fantastic ending. We sit there looking at that light on the hill, and we're thinking "looks like we'll have to make a trip there to find some answers next episode". And then a burst of gunfire pretty much put an end to that, and likely gave us the answers we were looking for anyways in the process.
So much for anybody trusting the army. Though I think that was pretty clear by the time we saw Captain Golf Ball. Shady ass doctor is about as untrustworthy as you can get. I felt bad for druggie son being taken away, but that's some instant karma after stealing the sick old guy's morphine.
Fantastic ending. We sit there looking at that light on the hill, and we're thinking "looks like we'll have to make a trip there to find some answers next episode". And then a burst of gunfire pretty much put an end to that, and likely gave us the answers we were looking for anyways in the process.
