Fear the Walking Dead Season 1 discussion and spoilers.
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^Agreed. With this show, I actually feel suspense. Sure, characters do stupid things, like Alicia going back for the birdshot 
, but it's only irritating for US because WE know what's happening. They're still new to all this.
On The Walking Dead, we've been going for two years into the zombie apocalypse, but people are still acting like complete buffoons when they SHOULD know better. Like Tyreese not checking the corners before staring at a picture, or Bob's fascination with bubbles in the water. You can't tell us we're watching some of the baddest of the badasses, and they still get taken out in some of the stupidest ways imaginable.
I was also having trouble figuring out how zombie Peter got into the backdoor, but I noticed when Travis was burying the body, the garage was open, so I guess he got in that way.
, but it's only irritating for US because WE know what's happening. They're still new to all this. On The Walking Dead, we've been going for two years into the zombie apocalypse, but people are still acting like complete buffoons when they SHOULD know better. Like Tyreese not checking the corners before staring at a picture, or Bob's fascination with bubbles in the water. You can't tell us we're watching some of the baddest of the badasses, and they still get taken out in some of the stupidest ways imaginable.
I was also having trouble figuring out how zombie Peter got into the backdoor, but I noticed when Travis was burying the body, the garage was open, so I guess he got in that way.
All of the dumbness would be solved IF zombie TV and movies existed in the universe these people inhabit. Of all the universes out there, the one that doesn't have zombie TV shows or movies just happens to be the one where zombies become a reality.
What were the odds?
These poor bastards have no idea that the noise they heard and walk slowly towards will turn out to be a cat behind a curtain and then when they sigh in relief and turn around, that's when a zombie will jump out at them. You know, the basics.
If only someone had the good sense to invent zombie fiction in their universes. They could have avoided so much pain... and dumb fuckery.
What were the odds?
These poor bastards have no idea that the noise they heard and walk slowly towards will turn out to be a cat behind a curtain and then when they sigh in relief and turn around, that's when a zombie will jump out at them. You know, the basics.
If only someone had the good sense to invent zombie fiction in their universes. They could have avoided so much pain... and dumb fuckery.
I am willing to accept these characters not knowing things about the specifics of zombies, but these characters are just making odd decisions regardless of that.
Acceptable: Madison approaching Cal not knowing what's wrong with him. She has no idea that he's a zombie.
Unacceptable: Madison, having been attacked by Cal, and seeing him hit with the car a few times and still moving afterward, knows something is screwed up, yet still approaches the bloodied principal in the exact same way.
With the guy not going down on the viral video and Cal not going down, it's time to put two and two together. Regardless of whatever a zombie is, people are at the very least sick and very dangerous. Time to keep your distance.
This show is littered with dozens of instances of people making ridiculous decisions like in that Geico commercial where all the teenagers go hide behind all the chainsaws. "If you're in a horror movie, you make stupid decisions; it's what you do." I don't think that's something to aspire to.
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I feel sort-of the same way about Travis. He's anti-gun, sure, but he's seen quite a bit so-far as far as people who should be dead not, you know, *being dead.* So he has to know something is up too. Nick's drug-dealer friend was still animate after being hit by the truck several times and then tossed from the tunnel into the river basin. So, why is such a dick when it comes to the gun-thing on Mr. Salvador killing the guy attacking him in the house? Or being against putting down the neighbor lady? He knows something is up, but behaves as if these people are "just sick," like Herschel at first at the farm.
But, Herschel was naive from his isolated position and the stuff he'd seen on TV, he'd yet to fully see a walker take on critical damage and still be fully aggressive. When Shane shot the walker he was trying to "save" critically several times and she still was just as hostile he realized how foolish he'd been and that the walkers are no longer "people" and are dangerous monsters.
Travis doesn't have that excuse. He's seen first-hand what the walkers are, Nick's drug-dealer friend had a mortal wound bleeding from his chest and was still hostile, he got ran over by a truck, hopped right back up and was still hostile. He got hit by the truck again and tossed several yards and was still mobile. He's seen large blood patches where bodies once were with no bodies around. He's seen all of this, and yet he still thinks these are just sick people who can be recovered?
At least Madison seems to, somewhat, get that at this state there's no hope for the person. She's not fully latched on to the idea yet of killing the walkers but she at least seems to accept the notion that it's something that has to be done.
But, Herschel was naive from his isolated position and the stuff he'd seen on TV, he'd yet to fully see a walker take on critical damage and still be fully aggressive. When Shane shot the walker he was trying to "save" critically several times and she still was just as hostile he realized how foolish he'd been and that the walkers are no longer "people" and are dangerous monsters.
Travis doesn't have that excuse. He's seen first-hand what the walkers are, Nick's drug-dealer friend had a mortal wound bleeding from his chest and was still hostile, he got ran over by a truck, hopped right back up and was still hostile. He got hit by the truck again and tossed several yards and was still mobile. He's seen large blood patches where bodies once were with no bodies around. He's seen all of this, and yet he still thinks these are just sick people who can be recovered?
At least Madison seems to, somewhat, get that at this state there's no hope for the person. She's not fully latched on to the idea yet of killing the walkers but she at least seems to accept the notion that it's something that has to be done.
I figured she lied because she was afraid that they would take them away, like they did with the neighbor, once they found out they could have been exposed to infected blood.
I guess the stupid part was that the soldier believed she had buried her dog in a human-sized grave behind her suburban house. 
No sir, you have to support the troops. No matter what.
That's really the only way I see this happening. That kind of breakdown is sorta what happened in World War Z (the book) - and even then humanity basically reclaimed the upper hand after a while.
I guess the stupid part was that the soldier believed she had buried her dog in a human-sized grave behind her suburban house.
Obviously, it was a fully grown Great Dane.
I loved the apparent homage to Z Nation with a, Murphy eventually makes it to Ca., scene.
It's in the opening minutes of the show..., Chris is looking out at rioting through a ventilation slot on some sort of animal carrier, when someone clearly intended to look like 'Murphy' suddenly slides into view, staring back at Chris in a dramatic closeup of his piercing eyes.
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I think the buried bodies may be the key to WHY the infection spread. She didn't want to risk being forced into quarantine.
This early, based on what the soldiers were saying, being quarantined after exposure halts the spread. That's why Sue's husband went into custody.
But these people (and others like them everywhere) lying about the graves, not admitting to exposure and therefore not being quarantined is why it keeps spreading.
It's in the opening minutes of the show..., Chris is looking out at rioting through a ventilation slot on some sort of animal carrier, when someone clearly intended to look like 'Murphy' suddenly slides into view, staring back at Chris in a dramatic closeup of his piercing eyes.
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EM
I think the buried bodies may be the key to WHY the infection spread. She didn't want to risk being forced into quarantine.
This early, based on what the soldiers were saying, being quarantined after exposure halts the spread. That's why Sue's husband went into custody.
But these people (and others like them everywhere) lying about the graves, not admitting to exposure and therefore not being quarantined is why it keeps spreading.
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Eh, who knows? Unless you know ANYTHING about the actual root cause, hard to say why or how it is spreading. Do you have to have contact with a walker, or are people spreading it to each other? Would strongly argue the latter, because there's plenty of dead people becoming undead that have never seen a walker, and likely haven't seen anyone else that has, either. Not a clear vector from walker to fresh walker, I don't think the Army is doing anything useful.
Just as likely to be a bad strain of bird flu, or an attempt to cure cancer (I am Legend). Airborne, or in water supply, SOMETHING went worldwide, and ahead of enough people that could have had contact with a walker (or a person who had).
Just as likely to be a bad strain of bird flu, or an attempt to cure cancer (I am Legend). Airborne, or in water supply, SOMETHING went worldwide, and ahead of enough people that could have had contact with a walker (or a person who had).
Well, we do know from the parent show it is likely that many people have the zombie virus but are asymptomatic until they die. So if it is contagious then it would be pretty hard to contain without knowing who is actually contaminated.
Scooby Doo vs. The Walking Dead.I guess the stupid part was that the soldier believed she had buried her dog in a human-sized grave behind her suburban house.
Obviously, it was a fully grown Great Dane.
Maybe, but I think everybody probably already has it anyway at this point. Since the creators never want to deal with the origin of the Apocalypse, we'll probably always get inconsistent and contradictory evidence, to prevent us from reaching a conclusion.
No argument, just saying that I don't think "contact with a zombie or infected human (symptomatic or not)" is the vector here. There aren't enough walkers in enough places for that to catch on. It's gotta be something else that created the asymptomatic infection, and then we've got walkers popping up as people die or are bitten. Airborne, water/food supply, environmental, bad flu shots, something got out in the wild...
This could have been something that was dormant in people for years, decades even, and just recently something occurred to cause it to be active. There's also maybe some suggestion that not everyone was infected. I think of some of the corpses the original show's group came across in the abandoned highway. Numerous corpses in the vehicles that weren't reanimated.
We could probably argue they suffered severe brain trauma at death but, maybe they simply hadn't gotten the primary infection?
"Something" just seemed to occur that caused the dormant infection to activate in order to reanimate the body upon death. Or maybe it's always happened from the point the infection occurred and it's just now reaching the First World and becoming a problem. I also argue some people aren't able to cope with the initial infection and die from it, hence all of the school absences, while some people are able to cope with it and become non-symptomatic carriers.
We could probably argue they suffered severe brain trauma at death but, maybe they simply hadn't gotten the primary infection?
"Something" just seemed to occur that caused the dormant infection to activate in order to reanimate the body upon death. Or maybe it's always happened from the point the infection occurred and it's just now reaching the First World and becoming a problem. I also argue some people aren't able to cope with the initial infection and die from it, hence all of the school absences, while some people are able to cope with it and become non-symptomatic carriers.
I wonder if maybe in 5 years or so, if and when popularity of TWD is finally winding down, and they're talking about ending the show with an actual conclusion, maybe they'll finally give us "TWD:Origins" or something like that.
If they ever feel like actually ending the show, instead of leaving the story open-ended for more possible ZA adventures in the future, they might be willing to finally give a beginning too.
Though at this point, fans all over the world have imagined most possible beginnings, and most folks may agree that some things are better left unexplained.
Maybe they could call it something like... Fear the Walking Dead.
