Fear the Walking Dead Season 1 discussion and spoilers.

[RJDiogenes]

Okay, I finally got to see it. The show is really doing a good job of showing how fragile civilization is, both from a technological point of view and from a human standpoint. It doesn't take much to turn people into savages. And I like it that we have actually seen very few Zombies as yet-- it's helping to maintain that Night of the Living Dead vibe. Although we know that they can't keep that up for very long, since Walking Dead established that everything went toes up pretty quickly.

The scenes in the school were really good, when they encountered the Zombified principal. And the poor mom had to kill her friend. I don't think the Zombies are any tougher in this show, I just think that the characters are still holding back on some level. They're still thinking in terms of fighting a sick human being.

I do wonder if we'll see that kid ever again. I think it actually would have been a good idea to just hole up in that school. It's a pretty well fortified building, and as long as you make sure there aren't any other stray Zombies inside you'd be pretty safe.

Most of the characters are still pretty generic so far, but I'm really liking the druggy kid. He was concerned about the neighbor woman being unaware of the crisis and made his mom talk to her, and he was worried about his sister going back to her boyfriend. I think he faked that seizure to make her stay.

 

[Trekker4747]

Good post, but let's keep it on the 1 to 10 scale that Naked and Afraid uses.

I honestly thought I was. I just didn't bother to back-check what the scale was. I contemplated a standard letter-grade scale. But, having 1-10 would have given more room to breathe. I'll go back and edit.

 

[Admiral2]

Acne Kid (Tobias): From stuff I've seen, it's unlikely we'll see him again but let's hope that doesn't turn out to be true and if he doesn't return this season he will next season. Either way, I'd probably give him a 6. Only because he saw this coming and seemed to be preparing for it. I think he has the craftiness to get through it without needing to do the physical too much, his resourcefulness will do him a lot of favors and once he gets a better knife/weapon and knows to go for the brain he should do well. His resourcefulness makes him a lot like Glenn. Best of luck to you, Acne Kid. May you score a girl who'd be way out of your league had it not been for the apocalypse.

Hear, hear!

 

[Turd Ferguson]

For budgetary reasons, the end of the world will be viewed from inside a barber shop. Thank you for your patronage

It better get better than this. (& I shouldn't have to say that about a premier of a tv show. If it were any other show, it would never get off the ground on this start). They should have thrown GOBS of money at this thing, with how well TWD does. So lets see it

The problem is, AMC knows they don't have to spend gobs of money to get people to watch. I mean, why spend shitloads of money when you don't have to? On The Walking Dead, they bring in thirteen million viewers to watch a few people wander the same woods over and over again.

 

[Ryan8bit]

Also, someone wrote an article theorizing that Tobias could be the next Morgan.

There are a lot of differences between Tobias and Morgan, I think. Morgan was intended to return at some point from the start. Rick even had the whole walkie talkie thing going. You could see it was set up that way. Plus, it helps that Lennie is a really great actor. This kid cast here was serviceable, but not quite on par. That's why it seemed pretty clear that he was there purely for setup. He's not even really a character.

For now, Tobias is gone. It's possible they could bring him back because people seem to like him, but what does it say when people care more about a one-dimensional setup character than the main cast?

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

I too think we will not see him later this season (I.e. in the next 4 episodes), but I think with the newfound popularity he's getting, we'll definitely see Tobias next season.

He might actually be the reason why Madison and her group survives -- he recognizes her, and vouches for her. It'd be really nice if he mentions how he goes back to the school & retrieves the food they took, and how that food helps him get some allies.

Also, someone wrote an article theorizing that Tobias could be the next Morgan.

That link offered theories that easily fall into the big stretch category. To be honest, Tobias has no fighting skill, did not know destroying the brain is the way to put down a zombie, and due to being out of shape, was quickly overpowered by teacher-zombie. Madison knows as much as Tobias, although her decision making skills are suspect.

In TWD S1E1, Morgan already knew his way around weapons, and was very resourceful. I know some will argue that he had all of Rick's coma time to be that way, but he just seemed like he was on his game in his 1st appearance.

 

[Zaku]

7 Scientific Reasons a Zombie Outbreak Would Fail (Quickly)

Let's pretend for a moment that zombies are real (as if half of you weren't already daydreaming about that very thing). Have you noticed how most zombie movies take place only after the apocalypse is in full-swing? By the time we join our survivors, the military and government are already wiped out, and none of the streets are safe.

There's a reason the movie starts there, and not earlier. It's because the early part, where we go from one zombie to millions, doesn't make any sense. If you let the creeping buzzkill of logic into the zombie party, you realize the zombies would all be re-dead long before you even got a chance to fire up that chainsaw motorcycle you've been working on. Why?

 

[Skywalker]

That's fine for a scenario in which the zombie plague can only be spread by bites, but in the TWD universe every human being who dies reanimates, regardless of the cause of death. Would such an outbreak still fail?

 

[sojourner]

You can't stop a zombie plague for one reason - it's fiction.

 

[FreezeC77]

They should have made knife kid a gun Otaku like the chubby kid in highschool of the dead Manga/anime. Or better yet just adapted that

 

[Turtletrekker]

Also, once people start dropping from the virus itself, things would get out of control rather quickly.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

That's fine for a scenario in which the zombie plague can only be spread by bites, but in the TWD universe every human being who dies reanimates, regardless of the cause of death. Would such an outbreak still fail?

If word got out quickly enough that a head shot is the key to the whole thing, it just might.

Then again, it also might spur the mass suicide of the entire human race, knowing what they'd otherwise be in for. (I mean, what would you do? If you knew for a fact that once you died, you would reanimate, and it was absolutely unavoidable, even if you never saw another zombie ever again...what's there left to live for?)

 

[sojourner]

Um, how does turning into a zombie after you die effect wanting to continue to live? It's not like you need the body any more.

The point of living doesn't change just because there's something new happening to dead bodies after you're gone.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Spreading the infection. You may not care about your body being used to destroy the world, but the world might.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

The point of living doesn't change just because there's something new happening to dead bodies after you're gone.

The operative phrase being, of course, "after you're gone".

Of course there would be no way to verify this, but I'd hate to think that the consciousness of the dead person is still trapped inside that body, unable to move on to their final reward...

 

[sojourner]

Ah, that definitely wouldn't spur the mass suicide of the entire human race. considering most of the human race wouldn't have that point of view.

 

[Scout101]

I too think we will not see him later this season (I.e. in the next 4 episodes), but I think with the newfound popularity he's getting, we'll definitely see Tobias next season.

He might actually be the reason why Madison and her group survives -- he recognizes her, and vouches for her. It'd be really nice if he mentions how he goes back to the school & retrieves the food they took, and how that food helps him get some allies.

Also, someone wrote an article theorizing that Tobias could be the next Morgan.

That link offered theories that easily fall into the big stretch category. To be honest, Tobias has no fighting skill, did not know destroying the brain is the way to put down a zombie, and due to being out of shape, was quickly overpowered by teacher-zombie. Madison knows as much as Tobias, although her decision making skills are suspect.

In TWD S1E1, Morgan already knew his way around weapons, and was very resourceful. I know some will argue that he had all of Rick's coma time to be that way, but he just seemed like he was on his game in his 1st appearance.

he also loses a few points for not leaving the school with ANY of the canned food he had just risked his life for. After the fight, they just left it all behind and ran out.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Um, how does turning into a zombie after you die effect wanting to continue to live? It's not like you need the body any more.

The point of living doesn't change just because there's something new happening to dead bodies after you're gone.

One of the most powerful, dominating beliefs throughout human history is that one dies, and his soul is supposed to move on. While there's no evidence the zombies have that, or a conscience of any kind, the idea of not fully leaving, only to be a rotted thing preying--almost exclusively--on fellow humans would seem like the most depressing aberration to humankind--ever.

Some might become disillusioned to the point that they lose reasons to live, because they feel there is not only no future living, but death promises no good outcome either--instead you become a thing forever walking earth. I do not believe in suicide, but I think some facing that hope-killing reality might think just ending it is the only release available.

 

[sojourner]

The operative word in your post being "some". It's not going to be the cause of every human on the planet committing suicide.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

If zombies are completely mindless and don't have any consciousness (like a car without a driver), then why does a head shot destroy them?