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I can't put up a poll for this because there are so many. Still wanna watch "People vs. George Lucas" but of the ones I've seen, I like

"Empire of Dreams" - really makes you appreciate how groundbreaking EVERY aspect of A New Hope is, and how the odds were stacked against it until things started somehow to come together at the end. These days, big films don't crews that have a total of zero interest in a big movie where they only care to leave at 5PM. Watching this film will allow to separate SW form all other blockbusters.

"The Beginning" The fly-on-the-wall technique of the TPM documentary makes for a surprising thorough and honest film. You can clearly see where the vision of this film is flawed right form the beginning. Most interesting are the test screenings, where Lucas and Burtt realize that the film can't be saved in editing.

"From Puppets to Pixels". - The first minute of this film.. before the title comes up, says a whole lot. We see George working back in the 70's on the spectacular hangar set for A New Hope. We see makeup and prosthetics applied to Chewbacca, along with a myriad of other moments in the original trilogy brought to life with whatever technique they could come up with.. and then it fades into a shot of George sitting next to bob Coleman at a desk in front of a computer. From there, the hands-on gritty quality that made SW the best film franchise in history is diminished iwth the new trilogy's approach.
 
I grew up watching the three classic documentaries almost as much as the movies themselves, so if I could choose them all as one I would. Failing that, Empire of Dreams gets my vote.

I also kind of like the little Aussie one, "The Phandom Menace". It's just a slice of Aussie fandom leading up to TPM's release, so probably not recommended for a lot of people, but I dig it. :)
 
"The Beginning" The fly-on-the-wall technique of the TPM documentary makes for a surprising thorough and honest film. You can clearly see where the vision of this film is flawed right form the beginning. Most interesting are the test screenings, where Lucas and Burtt realize that the film can't be saved in editing.
Such a thing exists?
 
"The Beginning" The fly-on-the-wall technique of the TPM documentary makes for a surprising thorough and honest film. You can clearly see where the vision of this film is flawed right form the beginning. Most interesting are the test screenings, where Lucas and Burtt realize that the film can't be saved in editing.
Such a thing exists?

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da8s9m4zEpo[/yt]
 
I also gotta give high marks to "Within a Minute" which.. in only talking about one single scene for an hour, actually tells you in detail about each process that goes into making any film.
 
Such a thing exists?


It's the most honest account of how things went wrong with TPM

Spawned a lot of memes and such




[YT]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxf1c3fzDOU[/YT]


[YT]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz-SaMu8k3w[/YT]


"Jar Jar is the key to all of this"


to the editor butting heads with Lucas about digitally moving an actor in a shot
 
Definitely The Beginning. I think it shows how ambitious Lucas was and how much he was putting into this project. I think it also shows how he realized he screwed up with a few choices. It's surprisingly not propaganda.
 
Definitely The Beginning. I think it shows how ambitious Lucas was and how much he was putting into this project. I think it also shows how he realized he screwed up with a few choices. It's surprisingly not propaganda.

In one of these docus Lucas says he's sure he could have made fans happy and made millions by starting with II instead of I. I think this is while they were making I so it must be "The Beginning".
 
Empire of Dreams - "The" documentary about the original Star Wars trilogy Seems well made
 
The editor was concerned that it opened up too many possibilities.

I think their discussion during and after the first screening is very telling. "It's stylistically designed to be that way and you can't undo that, but we can diminish the effects of it. "
 
I like Starwoids a lot. It's about the fans who waited for six weeks outside Mann's Chinese Theater for The Phantom Menace.
 
Most interesting are the test screenings, where Lucas and Burtt realize that the film can't be saved in editing.

That's the biased RLM view of the footage. That's how confirmation bias works. You're presenting that as if it's objective reality. I hardly think the point of releasing the feature was to say "here's a film that couldn't be saved".
 
Most interesting are the test screenings, where Lucas and Burtt realize that the film can't be saved in editing.

That's the biased RLM view of the footage. That's how confirmation bias works. You're presenting that as if it's objective reality. I hardly think the point of releasing the feature was to say "here's a film that couldn't be saved".

negative. Negative Negative

I was an RLM fan way before they put that TPM review. I was also a fan of the documentary long before RLM did the review, and thought it was brilliant that they incorporated some of those scenes in their review.

But the documentary really DOES show these screenings, and the frustration they were having with things that weren't working, pacing and tone, and the competition and expectations. Please refrain from ad hominem attacks, as I've been a fan since the first film was released in theaters..
 
I was an RLM fan way before they put that TPM review.

I don't care. That is literally the most irrelevant thing you could have said.

But the documentary really DOES show these screenings

You don't say.

and the frustration they were having with things that weren't working

But you're not necessarily seeing what they're seeing at that point. You're assuming specific "things" somehow represent the film as a whole, and that the things they were concerned with weren't changed, and that the emotions which you're interpreting from the footage were never mitigated. You assume too much.

Please refrain from ad hominem attacks

A reference to confirmation bias qualifies as an ad hominem attack?
 
Empire of Dreams has been my favorite Star Wars documentary for several years now and I just rewatched part of it the other day. Although it only gives brief mention to anything that happened in the franchise after 1983 and the release of Return of the Jedi it's still one of the most comprehensive, detailed and visually-interesting documentaries ever made about the Star Wars movies and how they were made. It's the one that I find the most entertaining.
 
What was the one with black and white videotape (?) where Harrison Ford is doing a run through of the dialog with different actors. Cindy Williams before Carrie, and someone who looked a bit like Lief Garret before Hamill?
 
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