I agree about the dislike of the future uniforms, more on the ground that they seemed designed solely to be worn by old people, out of how they were aging up the actors and for no other reason. The pants part just looks ridiculous - those things go up like half of the persons' torsos!
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I agree about the dislike of the future uniforms, more on the ground that they seemed designed solely to be worn by old people, out of how they were aging up the actors and for no other reason. The pants part just looks ridiculous - those things go up like half of the persons' torsos!
See post #24.
And post #17 
76 Trombones.
Indeed, #17 and #24! Not feeling quite so lonely. Of course everybody's going to have widely different views on this and rightfully so. IDIC and so forth. But I have to admit I just about shed a tear the first time I saw the TWOK uniforms on my childhood heroes. I hadn't much cared for the TMP uniforms either, mainly because they were ridiculously revealing for the male crew members, as though they were gymnasts. I read somewhere recently that they were so tight they were painful to sit in and that the actors had to lean up against a wall while waiting to perform.
Isn't that a variant of the "Marine" type combat uniform?
Isn't that a variant of the "Marine" type combat uniform?
That I am not sure of, what do you mean by "Marine Type"?
This uniform appeared just before the main uniforms on DS9 went to the black/gray uniforms.
I meant the ones we saw worn by Starfleet "Marines" during ground combat on this AR-something planet in the Chin'toka system.
Call me an old timer as well, I have to go with the uniforms from vintage ST. I like their colors best.
I also liked that some of the female crew members wore pants in The Cage and Where No Man Has Gone Before.
I also liked that some of the female crew members wore pants in The Cage and Where No Man Has Gone Before.
Not Starfleet, but the MACO gear from Enterprise always looked like a pidgeon had shit all over them to me.
Voted Early "Deep Space Nine" & "Voyager"
Runner-ups:
"Enterprise"
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan "Monster Maroons"
Mid-Late "The Next Generation"
Personally, I don't get the popularity of the First Contact uniforms…
Runner-ups:
"Enterprise"
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan "Monster Maroons"
Mid-Late "The Next Generation"
Personally, I don't get the popularity of the First Contact uniforms…
Re. the alleged "ground forces" ahem, "uniform" from DS9: Nor the Battle to the Strong
It's worth taking a careful look at either the original episode or the screen caps on somewhere like trekcore.com as this actually shows the costume to be just the standard Starfleet costume at that time - i.e. A black jumpsuit with branch-colored shoulders and grey undershirt (albeit suitably "distressed" in appearance...!) - over which is worn the padded black jacket with branch colored trim below a black yoke.
It's worth taking a careful look at either the original episode or the screen caps on somewhere like trekcore.com as this actually shows the costume to be just the standard Starfleet costume at that time - i.e. A black jumpsuit with branch-colored shoulders and grey undershirt (albeit suitably "distressed" in appearance...!) - over which is worn the padded black jacket with branch colored trim below a black yoke.
Body armor would likely be useless against phasers in real life..but maybe there could be some sort of power transformer/energy dampening generator as part of a suit that would do the work of traditional sci-fi armored suits without physically blocking the beam.
But body armor and helmets would be very useful for protection against shrapnel and secondary hits. It could also help in close-quarters combat.
But I kind of liked the notion that Starfleet didn't have a sophisticated ground military. It fits with the theme of peaceful exploration by ships crewed by scientists, engineers, and at most, security/police guys. Sure, they adequately defended their ships, but they didn't have true *soldiers*.
And my favorite uniforms are from the TNG-era shows — except the early TNG spandex!
But I kind of liked the notion that Starfleet didn't have a sophisticated ground military. It fits with the theme of peaceful exploration by ships crewed by scientists, engineers, and at most, security/police guys. Sure, they adequately defended their ships, but they didn't have true *soldiers*.
And my favorite uniforms are from the TNG-era shows — except the early TNG spandex!
Ex Astris Scientia has good resources.
Here:
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/gallery/starfleet-uniforms1.htm
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/gallery/starfleet-uniforms2.htm
Here:
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/gallery/starfleet-uniforms1.htm
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/gallery/starfleet-uniforms2.htm
I don't. Any organization that *doesn't* have a military will soon be dead. The Federation must have one. The fact that it's lasted this long is proof of that.
Now what this organization is actually CALLED, is anybody's guess. Could be the Federation Marine Corps, Starfleet Marine Corps, the MACOs (who knows, they may still exist), or whatever, but there must always be a form of ground troops. Indeed, in several episodes of DS9, Federation ground troops (that specific phrase was used - 'ground troops' ) were mentioned. So we know they exist.
You can't take Starfleet shipboard security officers, for example, and put them on the front lines. They are there to enforce security on board ships and starbases. Ground fighting is completely different. You can't have one do the other. That would be like taking a security guard at Wal-Mart and sending him to Afghanistan. There must always be specialization.
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