Discussion in 'Star Trek - The Original & Animated Series' started by CLARK NOVA, May 21, 2020.
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers... which smell bad."
Yeah I like this one and all of the goofy dialogue and situations in this episode.
Most of my other favorites have already been posted so I'll add this one.
"Thank you doctor I was able to gather the meaning."
“May I say that I have not thoroughly enjoyed serving with Humans? I find their illogic and foolish emotions a constant irritant.”
"Sir, there is a multi-legged creature crawling on your shoulder."
Spock to Trelane in "The Squire of Gothos":
"I object to you. I object to intellect without discipline. I object to power without constructive purpose."
"I advise you to keep dialing, Oxmyx!"
“Computer, this is a class-A compulsory directive. Compute to the last digit, the value of pi.”
“Oochie Woochie Coochie Coo Captain?”
"I think you're both going to be insufferably pleased with yourselves for at least a month, sir!"
"Take D'Artagnan here to Sickbay."
I love po-faced Spock dearly, but this line of his just kills me.
Thanks, I just realised I can add that to my list of examples of when Spock (who is apparently incapable of lying) tells an outright lie
Is it an outright lie?
There are certainly lots of single celled orgnisms on every person's shoulders, and there are probably still lots of single celled organisms on people's shoulders even in highly advanced societies like the Federation or Eminiar VII.
So are there any microscopic multi celled creatures which might have multiple legs crawling over human skin?
Dust mite feed on dead human skin cells, for example, but as far as I know don't live on humans. Skin mites often might crawl on humans to suck blood, but I don't know whether every human always has some skin mites on them.
Thus Spock might possibly be aware that most or all Earth Humans have multi-legged microscopic creatures crawling on them, numerous enough that every human shoulder is likely to have some at any one time. Note that the inhabitants of Eminiar VII look very much like Earth humans and could thus have their equivalent of skin mites on them. And possibly tricorder scans of Eminians have established that they do have skin mites.
So possibly, instead of an outright lie, Spock's statement could have been a gross understatement of the true number of multilegged creatures crawling on the Eminian's shoulder at that moment.
That is some splendid next level reasoning!
However, if Spock said something that was technically true but said in such a way that he knew without doubt that his statement would be misinterpreted, would that count as a lie? Or just intentional deception? And where is the line?
How far down the Clinton-esque path do we want to go?
Of course, much of this is academic since the only episode in which Spock seems to confirm the rumour that Vulcans cannot tell a lie (The Enterprise Incident) he spends much of the time lying!
Vulcans “do not lie” is a convenient myth they’re in no hurry to contradict. It’s a sometimes useful myth.
Exactly. I love the way he non-answers the Romulan Commander's question in TEI
Spock’s human half lied.
"I see no reason to insult me, Sir! I believe I've been completely logical about the whole affair!" Is Spock's reply to Kirk after being accused of flagrant emotionalism by his friend and Captain. And who seems only too happy the adventure is finally over!
Mirror Kirk: "You traitorous pig! I'll hang you up by your Vulcan ears! I'll have you all executed!"
Spock: "I think not"
I like in This Side of Paradise when Kirk questions Spock about not responding and Spock's answer is "I didn't want too, Jim" Makes me chuckle every time.
I also like in Amok Time when Spock comments says to Stonn, "Stonn. She is yours. After a time, you may find that having is not so pleasing a thing after all as wanting. It is not logical, but it is often true." because it rings true for me personally.
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