Favorite out-of-character lines?
- Thread starter Ragitsu
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And where's the harm in finding some that might make the thing more enjoyable to some people? Am I defacing the Mona Lisa, dude?
Star Trek itself has literally written in things that very similarly fill in gray areas to the overall. I actually participate in a fan production, & we've done it too. I don't see the victim here.
Terrific. Seems like a good policy might be live & let live. Besides, what I meant by one of the main reasons we drop by here is to have... good fun, & I don't see any reason why that example couldn't be part of that
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"Then why didn't you let him die?"
-- Pretty cold for Picard. Then again, if those irritating inbreds were worshiping me, I might say the same thing.
-- Pretty cold for Picard. Then again, if those irritating inbreds were worshiping me, I might say the same thing.
"Who Watches The Watchers"?
We shouldn't have to guess where the quote came from. I believe Ragitsu is correct though.
Yes, it is from "Who Watches The Watchers".
I actually can't blame Picard for that statement, because look at what happened in the episode. It was cultural contamination of the worst kind... someone looking at one of our people as a deity. Nothing is more dangerous to a society than that.
Probably my favorite out of character line is from Worf, even though it is early Worf.
"Pygmy cretins!"
"The Last Outpost"
I actually can't blame Picard for that statement, because look at what happened in the episode. It was cultural contamination of the worst kind... someone looking at one of our people as a deity. Nothing is more dangerous to a society than that.
Probably my favorite out of character line is from Worf, even though it is early Worf.
"Pygmy cretins!"
"The Last Outpost"
I have always thought that Picard may not have meant that Crusher should have let Liko die.
Perhaps he was testing her, wanting a good answer on what was going on?
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To me it felt like he meant it, and didn't feel out of character. TNG Picard is very much about setting your personal feelings aside for duty or greater good or whatever, even in extreme cases like this--or perhaps especially in such cases. And making the tough decisions you have to make, even if it means that people die--especially in TNG the Prime Directive is such a fundamental principle that they'd literally let entire planets' populations die to uphold it.
I'd assume this is made very clear to all Starfleet personnel during their training, including medical staff. So here I think Picard is expecting her to know that she's supposed to let him die.
For the record, I'm not trying to defend the PD or how it is upheld, or what business they had setting up a watch post over their village etc., and I certainly don't want to start that discussion here. Just saying that in the context of the show I didn't find this out of character.
I'd assume this is made very clear to all Starfleet personnel during their training, including medical staff. So here I think Picard is expecting her to know that she's supposed to let him die.
For the record, I'm not trying to defend the PD or how it is upheld, or what business they had setting up a watch post over their village etc., and I certainly don't want to start that discussion here. Just saying that in the context of the show I didn't find this out of character.
Offtopic, maybe, but about the situation in 'Who Watches The Watchers'.
I think the prime directive goes out the window when you have surveillance on a primitive planet and end up hurting someone, in this case Liko.
In that case you should be resposible of taking care of the injured individual(s),
That raises another question, is it smart to do that kind of surface surveillance?
Being on the planet in 'First Contact' was a near disaster.
Just stay in orbit, scan the planet and so on, there would be no risk of cultural contamination.
But in that case there would be no episodes of this nature so....
I think the prime directive goes out the window when you have surveillance on a primitive planet and end up hurting someone, in this case Liko.
In that case you should be resposible of taking care of the injured individual(s),
That raises another question, is it smart to do that kind of surface surveillance?
Being on the planet in 'First Contact' was a near disaster.
Just stay in orbit, scan the planet and so on, there would be no risk of cultural contamination.
But in that case there would be no episodes of this nature so....
Re "First Contact", the episode. Picard discussed the matter with Durken, when the latter confronted him about Riker. He said that after "disastrous" contact with the Klingons led to decades of war, it was decided that surface reconnaissance would be part of the first contact procedure. It was, he said, a controversial decision. But, Picard believed it to have been the right one.
Making the first contact in space when both sides are able to travel in space would make more sense, I guess.
Decades of war after a first contact gone bad in space or (by accident) exposing an entire culture to a new space age, that might be worse.
When two species able to travel in space don't get along they're on the "same level" but introducing a whole space community to a species that has never traveled outside their world, imagine the chaos that might consume that world.
Picard and Troi, when making their initial contact with Minister Yale, address that too. They prefer a meeting on the surface, with an individual they carefully select beforehand, to a "random confrontation" in deep space. It's just sort of saying "hi, how are you, we're out here. So don't be upset if you go out into interstellar space and you're not alone there."
It also allows the other species the option of pulling the plug on the whole affair. Picard assured Durken that, if asked to leave his world and never return, that is exactly what would happen.
Now I want to try cellular peptide cake with mint frosting.
His best version of that was the second time in "Phantasms".
(mouth full) "With mint frosting."
(mouth full) "With mint frosting."
At least it was part of Data's psycho dream. 
My favorite is from Data in Datalore:
"Yes, sir, I'm fine."
I'm amazed the crew didn't stain their pants in a kneejerk response belief that Data is now floating in space and Lore is there at the console...
Another may come from Yar and this out-of-character moment is such a doozy that it's better in the originalShakespeare video form:
Of course, that scene's loaded with more uncharacteristic one-liners than Raisin Bran has fiber...
My favorite is from Data in Datalore:
"Yes, sir, I'm fine."
I'm amazed the crew didn't stain their pants in a kneejerk response belief that Data is now floating in space and Lore is there at the console...
Another may come from Yar and this out-of-character moment is such a doozy that it's better in the original
Of course, that scene's loaded with more uncharacteristic one-liners than Raisin Bran has fiber...
