Absolutely, when tradition is used as a justification for a course of action, its purpose is to prejudice the outcome. That's what tradition is all about.
Watching a disparate bunch of actors all playing the same role. What about you?
Favorite Bond actor
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Absolutely, when tradition is used as a justification for a course of action, its purpose is to prejudice the outcome. That's what tradition is all about.
Watching a disparate bunch of actors all playing the same role. What about you?
Connery and Lazenby were physically off the same mould, as are Dalton and Brosnan but Moore and Craig are nothing like the others. There is a sort of tall, dark and handsome traditional depiction of Bond but, for me anyway, Craig has shown that someone outside that box can play the role.
I can go with that. Although, I'm watching The Saint and Moore seems to portray a version (albeit better version at times) of 'James Bond' in the sixth season of the show more than he did during his tenure. The show at that point was obviously was inspired by the Connery movies at the time, as well as The Avengers.
Too, I believe Craig is the shortest actor to portray the character. IIRC, he's around my height: 5'-9."
Daniel Craig by a narrow lead over Sean Connery
I like the energy the Craig Bond movies unfold and the thrilling fights and also the fact that his Bond can (and does) get hurt. With all the other Bond's they sure do get beat up by the muscle guy of the movie but you never get the real impact which ultimately leads to the fights becoming boring.
Craig bleeds, gets cut and is in pain just as you would expect from fights like these. I also like that they toned the gadgetry way down after the insane and ludicrous Brosnan Bond movies where the producers themselves have admitted they got carried away.
Casino Royale and Skyfall are, for me, the best Bond movies i have ever seen and that's not a small thing when you have movies such as Goldfinger or You Only Live Twice in the mix.
However i can totally understand if people don't like the Craig movies as they are quite different from the "usual" Bond movies.
Special mention goes to Pierce Brosnan (as i always do when i discuss Bond) whom i consider to be the most fitting actor to portray the high society, upper class social chameleon that is one part of Bond's job description and character and it's a damn shame that the scripts and screenplays were such utter garbage that they warranted a franchise reboot.. but we got the Craig Bond's because of it so silver linings and all that.
I like the energy the Craig Bond movies unfold and the thrilling fights and also the fact that his Bond can (and does) get hurt. With all the other Bond's they sure do get beat up by the muscle guy of the movie but you never get the real impact which ultimately leads to the fights becoming boring.
Craig bleeds, gets cut and is in pain just as you would expect from fights like these. I also like that they toned the gadgetry way down after the insane and ludicrous Brosnan Bond movies where the producers themselves have admitted they got carried away.
Casino Royale and Skyfall are, for me, the best Bond movies i have ever seen and that's not a small thing when you have movies such as Goldfinger or You Only Live Twice in the mix.
However i can totally understand if people don't like the Craig movies as they are quite different from the "usual" Bond movies.
Special mention goes to Pierce Brosnan (as i always do when i discuss Bond) whom i consider to be the most fitting actor to portray the high society, upper class social chameleon that is one part of Bond's job description and character and it's a damn shame that the scripts and screenplays were such utter garbage that they warranted a franchise reboot.. but we got the Craig Bond's because of it so silver linings and all that.
All of this.
I can see where it gets confusing. It's sort of like pointing to "the wind". Can you point to wind? You just feel it.
That's kinda how I feel about Bond. It's hard to describe what makes a Bond, but you just know it. And it goes beyond being British. Brosnan and Lazenby weren't British, but they had "it".
It's kind of like recasting.
We can recast James Bond and Captain Kirk in a certain way where the original is preserved to some extent. No, Chris Pine isn't exactly like Shatner; no, Roger Moore isn't exactly like Connery...but there's a certain continuity there. Even if the styles are different. George Reeves and Christopher Reeve were different, but there's still something undeniably Superman about both.
When I see Elba, I see a handsome guy. I don't see Bond. When I see Colin Farrell, I see a handsome guy, but I don't see Bond. On the other hand, when I see Colin Salmon, I can see a Bondish quality there.
It's hard to put your finger on it.
Some people are Bond, and some aren't. I remember in the 80s, a kid in my class said Arnold Schwarzenegger would be a good Bond with his hair slicked back, (kinda like in Raw Deal.) They ended up making True Lies, but is Arnold---as much as I love him---is Arnold Bond?
Maybe I need to watch more Elba movies, but at this point, I just don't see it.
^ Fair enough. But I remember when they cast Brosnan thinking he was too much of a lightweight and wouldn't be any good. He ended up being my second favourite (at that time). I was even more against Craig, mainly because I didn't think he looked sufficiently Bond-esque but I ended up preferring him to Brosnan. I like him almost as much as Connery in fact.
Definitely Roger Moore, suave, sophisticated, an English gentleman, funny, charming, action hero, I thought he made the perfect spy. Like Jon Pertwee in Doctor Who.
Man, I remember nobody in my 7th and 8th grade class liking Timothy Dalton. I always defended him (even though his two films weren't the best IMO), but I always liked Dalton.
On the other hand, I remember "everyone" thinking Brosnan should be Bond.
I don't remember any negative comments about Brosnan at the time, but I guess that doesn't mean there wasn't somebody somewhere pissed off at his casting.
I've been a fan of Elba for a long time, ever since Ultraviolet which he was the best thing in, which given every one in it was top drawer is saying something. I also have no issue with a black 007, hell after Brosnan I was really hoping they'd give Colin Salmon a shot.
But...
I've never been able to quite see Idris Elba as Bond. Salmon yes, Chiwetel Ejiofor yes, but Elba, I dunno...
That said I learned my lesson over Daniel Craig, trust the Bond producers they'll pick the right man.
But...
I've never been able to quite see Idris Elba as Bond. Salmon yes, Chiwetel Ejiofor yes, but Elba, I dunno...
That said I learned my lesson over Daniel Craig, trust the Bond producers they'll pick the right man.
I've only seen Chiwetel Ejiofor in "12 Years A Slave".
Sorry, but I think that's even worse than Elba. At least Elba is a good looking guy. (Not that Ejiofor is ugly, but I don't see Bondish good looks there.) Is there a movie of his that I can watch that makes him a good Bond candidate?
When I picture Ejiofor in my head, I just see a perpetually worried look on his face.
Sorry, but I think that's even worse than Elba. At least Elba is a good looking guy. (Not that Ejiofor is ugly, but I don't see Bondish good looks there.) Is there a movie of his that I can watch that makes him a good Bond candidate?
When I picture Ejiofor in my head, I just see a perpetually worried look on his face.
Elba's older than Craig - he won't be the next Bond.
