Favorite B5 character moments
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My favorite moment is between Sheridan and Garibaldi in Sheridan's office. It was the episode where Sheridan bumps into a membari in the hall and kills him in self defense. He comes of kind of ignorant but it's still great.
I'm paraphrasing:
Sheridan: I want you to find that Membari and bring him here!
Garibaldi: Do you have a description?
Sheridan: (pauses) Bald..... with a bone on his head! (Sheridan storms out)
I'm paraphrasing:
Sheridan: I want you to find that Membari and bring him here!
Garibaldi: Do you have a description?
Sheridan: (pauses) Bald..... with a bone on his head! (Sheridan storms out)
A couple that immediately came to mind have already been mentioned... The G'Kar/Vir scene "dead, dead, dead". And Londo's first season "moonfaced assassin of joy" scene.
A couple more I didn't see when scanning the thread...
"I believe that when we leave a place, part of it goes with us and part of us remains. Go anywhere in the station, when it is quiet, and just listen. After a while, you will hear the echoes of all our conversations, every thought and word we've exchanged. Long after we are gone .. our voices will linger in these walls for as long as this place remains. But I will admit .. that the part of me that is going .. will very much miss the part of you that is staying." -- G'Kar to Sheridan, "Objects in Motion"
"Sometimes, I get so close and .. it seems I am shut off the important things."
"The useless feeling. The ambassador is definitely going through some changes, he even looks different."
"Indeed. And now with the military starting a stampede over everyone and everything .."
".. people coming and going, and secret meetings .."
".. you never know what it's all about, until later, when its too late."
"And they never listen to us."
"Makes me nervous." [together]
"Same time tomorrow?"
"Sure."
-- Vir and Lennier at the bar, "The Fall of Night"
A couple more I didn't see when scanning the thread...
"I believe that when we leave a place, part of it goes with us and part of us remains. Go anywhere in the station, when it is quiet, and just listen. After a while, you will hear the echoes of all our conversations, every thought and word we've exchanged. Long after we are gone .. our voices will linger in these walls for as long as this place remains. But I will admit .. that the part of me that is going .. will very much miss the part of you that is staying." -- G'Kar to Sheridan, "Objects in Motion"
"Sometimes, I get so close and .. it seems I am shut off the important things."
"The useless feeling. The ambassador is definitely going through some changes, he even looks different."
"Indeed. And now with the military starting a stampede over everyone and everything .."
".. people coming and going, and secret meetings .."
".. you never know what it's all about, until later, when its too late."
"And they never listen to us."
"Makes me nervous." [together]
"Same time tomorrow?"
"Sure."
-- Vir and Lennier at the bar, "The Fall of Night"
I love that scene
another favorite of mine is from the end of season 1 I think . . . Sinclair, Ivanova and Garibaldi are in the mess hall, and they trick Ivanova into thinking she slept through breakfast and is late for duty
I've only seen seasons 1 and 2 so I can't wait to see the rest!
Oh man I forgot two of my favorites from S4, both in "Face of the Enemy": when Edgars reveals the truth about telepaths and the virus and Clark and the coming coup to Garabaldi, and then Bester's scene in the railcar with Garibaldi. "Or I could leave as you are, trapped forever... in a prison of meat and flesh and bone... I've decided to be magnanimous with you, Mr.G, because you just pretended a new Holocaust..."
Of course that Edgars scene ended up being a waste of time, because when Sheridan took out Clark, the telepaths DIDN'T rise up and take over. So the entire S4 lead-in about telepaths and Clark and the virus... went absolutely nowhere. Sigh.
Of course that Edgars scene ended up being a waste of time, because when Sheridan took out Clark, the telepaths DIDN'T rise up and take over. So the entire S4 lead-in about telepaths and Clark and the virus... went absolutely nowhere. Sigh.
One scene I particularly remember involved Sinclairs attempt to explain human spirituality to the alien delegates.He leads them into a corridor and there is a queue of a priest, a shaman, a rabbi,etc. etc.
The other scene I vividly remember for it's odd beauty.Sheridan ventures into the bowels of the station to see the "billowing cloak/chanting" alien.
The other scene I vividly remember for it's odd beauty.Sheridan ventures into the bowels of the station to see the "billowing cloak/chanting" alien.
I did not understand the purpose of this scene at all. Why did Kosh think this was an important thing to show Sheridan?
Think about it. Kosh had earlier promised hat he would teach Sheridan about himself. Sheridan is about to enter an ever darkening time, as the war begins the conspiracies come to light, and so on. Sheridan is going to need to be able to be at peace, to "find beauty" in the darkest, dirtiest, grimiest of times.
"There All the Honor Lies" is a Peter David script but the 'one moment of perfect beauty' scene was inserted by JMS (per PAD's intro for the Other Voices script book). JMS posted:
One related moment that I always appreciated: That exact same chant was in the background when Brother Edward was praying in "Passing Through Gethsemane".
Jan
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One related moment that I always appreciated: That exact same chant was in the background when Brother Edward was praying in "Passing Through Gethsemane".
Jan
I would say every single scene with Cartagia in it, especially when hes been torturing G'Kar and he dumps the blood on the garden plants, Vir looks horrified
"it's good for the flowers!"
"it's good for the flowers!"
Except of course, you know, the Telepath War. Removing Clark only delayed it and probably made sure the mundanes and blips could actually win it. With Clark still in office, the Psi Corps would probably have just slipped into power, quietly. We already know that Clark wasn't the real power behind the Alliance, the shots were being called by Morden, an element of the Psi Corps (probably 13) and others in Earth Dome. When Morden and the Shadows disappeared on him, that left the Psi Corps and a few buracrats. Just how many reprograms and sleeper agents do you suppose they could have planted in the government by the end of 2261?
So from what Edgars knew, he was right to be worried, if Sheridan hadn't been captured then perhaps Clark would have let the blood hounds loose and the civil war would have quickly turned into a telepath war. Only this whay there isn't a solid foundation of human telepath dissidents to fight back with.
As for good moments, I think Lost Tales deserves at least one quote.
PA: Sir, that reporter from ISN is here to see you.
Sheridan: Tell her I'm dead and throw her down the stairs.
Side note:
Was the Telepath War between different groups of telepaths (as I used to think - Psi Corps vs. 'outsider' telepaths like Ivanova) or was it between telepaths and normals? Because if it's the latter, I don't see how the normals could have won.
Was the Telepath War between different groups of telepaths (as I used to think - Psi Corps vs. 'outsider' telepaths like Ivanova) or was it between telepaths and normals? Because if it's the latter, I don't see how the normals could have won.
To my knowledge it was the the rogue telepaths (the fopundation is the Byron storyline in S5) fighting the Corps.
I think it was a bit of both as in the Crusade flashback, the Psi Cop (wotsizname from Alien Nation) said something to the effect of "once 'that chick who would be Pat Tallman if she were available' is dead, then we can concentrate of fighting the normals again."
Unless of course I'm misremembering.
Unless of course I'm misremembering.
The point of the "Honor Lies" moment of beauty scene was to foreshadow Lorien. Kosh takes Sheridan to a nasty place in the belly of the station, he gives up his command bars, and he finds a moment of beauty waiting in the darkness. Same thing happens on Z'ha'dum.
What I meant was that Edgars specifically said if Sheridan moves on Earth, Clark will cut loose the final controls on the PsiCorps and they'll take over society. None of this happened. I remember waiting with baited breath for "Endgame" to air, to see how the Psi Corps would take over and what Sheridan would do with the Shadow-teeps to stop them. Little did I suspect they wouldn't even get a mention!
The Telepath War as I understand it: Lyta returns from her exile with G'Kar and Garibaldi's army is waiting for her to take command of. Lyta leads the rogue Teeps against the Psi-Corps. The Psi-Corps fights back, and presumably takes over the Earth in reaction to the attack (9/11 anyone?). We know that Bester was responsible for death camps that killed millions of Mundanes. Eventually Sheridan's Alliance intervenes and the PsiCorps is defeated. Lennier sacrifices himself in the war to redeem his betrayal of Sheridan. Bester manages to elude capture and goes on the run. The PsiCorps is reformed into the, uh, whatever it was called.
What I meant was that Edgars specifically said if Sheridan moves on Earth, Clark will cut loose the final controls on the PsiCorps and they'll take over society. None of this happened. I remember waiting with baited breath for "Endgame" to air, to see how the Psi Corps would take over and what Sheridan would do with the Shadow-teeps to stop them. Little did I suspect they wouldn't even get a mention!
The Telepath War as I understand it: Lyta returns from her exile with G'Kar and Garibaldi's army is waiting for her to take command of. Lyta leads the rogue Teeps against the Psi-Corps. The Psi-Corps fights back, and presumably takes over the Earth in reaction to the attack (9/11 anyone?). We know that Bester was responsible for death camps that killed millions of Mundanes. Eventually Sheridan's Alliance intervenes and the PsiCorps is defeated. Lennier sacrifices himself in the war to redeem his betrayal of Sheridan. Bester manages to elude capture and goes on the run. The PsiCorps is reformed into the, uh, whatever it was called.
From "In the Shadow of Z'ha'dum:"
Morden: "What do you want?"
Vir: "I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next 10 generations that some favors come with too high a price. I want to look up into your lifeless eyes and wave like this [waves at Morden]. Can you and your associates arrange that for me, Mr. Morden?"
And then, of course, he gets to do it in "Into the Fire."
It's brilliant, of all the people who get what they want from the Shadows in B5, his is the one that doesn't come back on him.
