Fantastic Four reboot?

[MeanJoePhaser]

The two movies were watchable but devoid of style. They just did the "superheroes in our world" thing, which fails half the time.

The Fantastic Four should be over-the-top and their world should be comic booky.

 

[iguana_tonante]

I didn't hate the last movies but they felt kind of void. And the cast was half-half: Evan and Chiklis yes, Alba and Gruff-whatever, no. Doom could have been nice (Victor's vice was always egocentrism and vanity, so I thought that McMahon from Nip/Tuck was actually an inspired casting), but the acting and storyline were not so good. Victor Von Doom is the monarch of Latveria, not a fucking CEO.

 

[exodus]

Personally, I quite enjoyed the two movies they made. Yes, they were lightweight but I did not mind that. Not every superhero movie has to be some Dark Knight-style misery (don't get me wrong, The Dark Knight was last year's best film for me).

The Fantastic Four aren't the right group for that sort of movie. I like the fact that they made movies for a family audience.

I agree. they were fun.

I also agree.

Every incarnation of the FF be it movie or cartoon have always been campy, much like the comic. As Hermiod correctly said, it's a film for the entire family.

 

[bigdaddy]

I thought the real problem with the films was that nobody really cares about FF.

That's what I always thought too. I can't stand 95% of super hero movies. However they are making super hero movies for every damn "hero" under this sun of that sun. I hope the super hero movies die soon like Westerns did in the 60s. Superman, Batman, Spiderman, all fine, but do we really need some of these side stories about Catwoman, and Wonder Woman, and god knows what else?

 

[Captain Craig]

FOX will need a good director and some good actors. Good luck on that.

Not to mention a good script. It completes the trinity needed for a really good film.

They talk of Iron Man in that release and IM had all 3 of those. People couuld've just shown up for a director or actor(s) but had the movie fallen flat due to its script no one would've recommend friends to see it. They wouldn't have seen it 2/3 times at the theater.

Director. Actors. Script.

While I modestly enjoyed both prior entries I'm most dissapointed to not get a Silver Surfer movie out of all this.

 

[exodus]

I thought the real problem with the films was that nobody really cares about FF.

That's what I always thought too. I can't stand 95% of super hero movies. However they are making super hero movies for every damn "hero" under this sun of that sun. I hope the super hero movies die soon like Westerns did in the 60s. Superman, Batman, Spiderman, all fine, but do we really need some of these side stories about Catwoman, and Wonder Woman, and god knows what else?

If the public pays money to see tham at the box office or to own on DVD, then the answer is "yes".

 

[CaptJimboJones]

Personally, I quite enjoyed the two movies they made. Yes, they were lightweight but I did not mind that. Not every superhero movie has to be some Dark Knight-style misery (don't get me wrong, The Dark Knight was last year's best film for me).

The Fantastic Four aren't the right group for that sort of movie. I like the fact that they made movies for a family audience.

Me too. I actually enjoyed the fact that they were lighthearted, somewhat mindless cartoonish entertainment. I very much enjoy the more intense, dark comic book films like Dark Knight and Watchmen, but some bubblegum is occasionally fun as well.

And Jessica Alba, well ... just being able to stare at her for 90 minutes is good enough for me, really.

 

[Norrin Radd]

Personally, I quite enjoyed the two movies they made. Yes, they were lightweight but I did not mind that. Not every superhero movie has to be some Dark Knight-style misery (don't get me wrong, The Dark Knight was last year's best film for me).

The Fantastic Four aren't the right group for that sort of movie. I like the fact that they made movies for a family audience.

I agree. they were fun.

I also agree.

Every incarnation of the FF be it movie or cartoon have always been campy, much like the comic. As Hermiod correctly said, it's a film for the entire family.

Practically all long running comic books have been "campy" in at least one point in their existence.

 

[Captain Craig]

That's what I always thought too. I can't stand 95% of super hero movies. However they are making super hero movies for every damn "hero" under this sun of that sun. I hope the super hero movies die soon like Westerns did in the 60s. Superman, Batman, Spiderman, all fine, but do we really need some of these side stories about Catwoman, and Wonder Woman, and god knows what else?

Well I got news for you two of your worst fears are coming true.

Jonah Hex, a western comic book is in the works with Josh Brolin, John Malkovich and Megan Fox.

 

[exodus]

I agree. they were fun.

I also agree.

Every incarnation of the FF be it movie or cartoon have always been campy, much like the comic. As Hermiod correctly said, it's a film for the entire family.

Practically all long running comic books have been "campy" in at least one point in their existence.

FF has been consistant in that area, not just at one point.

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

Marvel is probably cursing since they'd obviously much rather get the rights back and make FF movies themselves rather than have Fox continue to make them under license (and the license deals with Fox aren't particularly good ones for Marvel - they don't get much of a percentage compared to their Spider-Man deal with Sony).

Fox is also giving serious consideration to rebooting Daredevil, another property I'm sure Marvel would rather have back for themselves.

 

[Captain Craig]

Fox also keeps teasing a Ghost Rider 2, not that it'd be on Marvels top list so maybe its better for them if Fox does keep it since its likely not a priority property for them at present.

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

^^^
Ghost Rider felt like a Fox production, but it was actually made by Columbia Pictures, and they're the ones considering Ghost Rider 2.

 

[Norrin Radd]

I also agree.

Every incarnation of the FF be it movie or cartoon have always been campy, much like the comic. As Hermiod correctly said, it's a film for the entire family.

Practically all long running comic books have been "campy" in at least one point in their existence.

FF has been consistant in that area, not just at one point.

Not really. I mean, it's always somewhat more family oriented and perhaps a little lighter in tone, but that doesn't necessarily equate to "camp". There is still an underlying seriousness to the comic book, as there is in other comic books. To me, the only real comedic parts are when the Thing and the Torch go at it or when the Thing is incessantly complaining. But that's like when Spider-Man is always cracking jokes while he's fighting criminals. Or at least he used to.

 

[Captain Craig]

^^^
Ghost Rider felt like a Fox production, but it was actually made by Columbia Pictures, and they're the ones considering Ghost Rider 2.

Oops, at least you understand my confusion.

 

[exodus]

Practically all long running comic books have been "campy" in at least one point in their existence.

FF has been consistant in that area, not just at one point.

Not really. I mean, it's always somewhat more family oriented and perhaps a little lighter in tone, but that doesn't necessarily equate to "camp". There is still an underlying seriousness to the comic book, as there is in other comic books. To me, the only real comedic parts are when the Thing and the Torch go at it or when the Thing is incessantly complaining. But that's like when Spider-Man is always cracking jokes while he's fighting criminals. Or at least he used to.

Mr. Fantastic & Invisable Woman's exchanges of "Oh, Darling." & "Yes, Dear." are Brady Bunch campy. Psychoman, Blastar, Mole Man all campy villians. Sue Storm being of little use other than to be lusted after or a victim are classic damsel in distress camp. Only thing the comic missed is tying her up to the railroad tracks. The Thing talking about his "Aunt Petunia", campy. The Fantasticar? The name alone is corny. The X-Men have a stealth jet, with all of Reeds smarts the Fantasticar is the best we get?

 

[Norrin Radd]

FF has been consistant in that area, not just at one point.

Not really. I mean, it's always somewhat more family oriented and perhaps a little lighter in tone, but that doesn't necessarily equate to "camp". There is still an underlying seriousness to the comic book, as there is in other comic books. To me, the only real comedic parts are when the Thing and the Torch go at it or when the Thing is incessantly complaining. But that's like when Spider-Man is always cracking jokes while he's fighting criminals. Or at least he used to.

Mr. Fantastic & Invisable Woman's exchanges of "Oh, Darling." & "Yes, Dear." are Brady Bunch campy. Psychoman, Blastar, Mole Man all campy villians. Sue Storm being of little use other than to be lusted after or a victim are classic damsel in distress camp. Only thing the comic missed is tying her up to the railroad tracks. The Thing talking about his "Aunt Petunia", campy. The Fantasticar? The name alone is corny. The X-Men have a stealth jet, with all of Reeds smarts the Fantasticar is the best we get?

And Batman has the Batmobile and the Batarang and the Batcave and the Bat- god knows what else.

Many of Spider-Man's villains (for instance) are pretty damn lame...if they're written that way. I mean, the Green GOBLIN? That's his frickin' arch-enemy and yet apparently he looks so lame, they felt they had to change him for the movie. Unfortunately, they come up with something worse.

And a lot of married couples have pet names for each other...it disgusts me in real life.

 

[od0_ital]

I actually liked the two F4 films for what they were - not every comic book movie has to be dark & serious, and the Fantastic Four are the perfect characters to use for lightweight superhero movies.

Besides, its too soon to worry about a reboot - they shold focus on the Silver Surfer spin-off/sequel.

 

[exodus]

Not really. I mean, it's always somewhat more family oriented and perhaps a little lighter in tone, but that doesn't necessarily equate to "camp". There is still an underlying seriousness to the comic book, as there is in other comic books. To me, the only real comedic parts are when the Thing and the Torch go at it or when the Thing is incessantly complaining. But that's like when Spider-Man is always cracking jokes while he's fighting criminals. Or at least he used to.

Mr. Fantastic & Invisable Woman's exchanges of "Oh, Darling." & "Yes, Dear." are Brady Bunch campy. Psychoman, Blastar, Mole Man all campy villians. Sue Storm being of little use other than to be lusted after or a victim are classic damsel in distress camp. Only thing the comic missed is tying her up to the railroad tracks. The Thing talking about his "Aunt Petunia", campy. The Fantasticar? The name alone is corny. The X-Men have a stealth jet, with all of Reeds smarts the Fantasticar is the best we get?

And Batman has the Batmobile and the Batarang and the Batcave and the Bat- god knows what else.

Many of Spider-Man's villains (for instance) are pretty damn lame...if they're written that way. I mean, the Green GOBLIN? That's his frickin' arch-enemy and yet apparently he looks so lame, they felt they had to change him for the movie. Unfortunately, they come up with something worse.

And a lot of married couples have pet names for each other...it disgusts me in real life.

Which is why the FF films are exactly how they are.
They aren't really trying to be like Spidey or Bats and be real world believable, they remain true to the comics. It's why Dr. Doom won't die and keeps coming back, unlike Ra's or the Goblin.

 

[Piper]

I'm sorry Chiklis is going, he was good. The two films weren't bad, but weren't up to the standard of stuff like Iron Man or TDK - it'll be good for it to get a film skewed slightly older.