Even without any smiley icons, I would imagine that The G-Man's original comment wasn't entirely serious and was intended more as praise for Ant-Man than anything else.
Fantastic Four reboot-- Casting, Rumors, Pix, ect;
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My understanding of G-Man's post was that we should genuinely boycott the movie, make placards, send protest letters and possibly even hack the E-mail accounts of the studio execs. If that doesn't work, a hard hitting leaflet campaign designed to undermine the confidence of the actors (maybe telling them that they smell & have bad haircuts).
But then I'm very literal.
But then I'm very literal.
I don't think anyone needs to do anything, Fox has already done all that is needed.
If F4 bombs Fox will just wait until their rights are about to expire and they'll do another reboot to keep the rights. "We'll get it right this time! Third time's the charm!" they'll tell themselves.
Well, it was supposedly the disappointing performance of The Amazing Spider-Man 2 that led to the agreement between Sony and Marvel Studios to collaborate on Spider-Man and fold him into the MCU. Some think that if the FF movie fails, it might lead to a similar ceding of creative control to Marvel. Note that in the Spidey deal, Sony still has the movie rights to the character and still produces and profits from his solo movies, but they're drawing on Marvel Studios to handle the creative side, as well as taking advantage of the cachet of the MCU. So Sony has arguably gained more from the deal than it's lost.
If Fox did the same with the FF, then they would still own the rights and profit from the movies; the only things they'd cede would be creative control and, perhaps, a degree of prestige. After all, they were the studio that started the modern age of superhero movies with X-Men, so it'd be kind of embarrassing if they had to cede control to a relative latecomer like Marvel Studios. It would also mean losing the chance to build their own shared-universe crossover franchise to compete with Marvel and Warner Bros./DC, since presumably the re-rebooted FF would join Spidey in the MCU and thus the X-Men/FF crossover plans would be off the table. (Although Fox could carry on building a shared-universe franchise with the mutant characters they have the rights to. They already have X-Men, Wolverine, and the upcoming Gambit and Deadpool films, and they could add more like X-Factor or New Mutants.)
In that theoretical situation, I have to wonder if they couldn't have it both ways...cross the FF over with the X-films and the MCU films, so long as the MCU and X-Men properties never cross? The continuity issues would of course make our heads explode, but would there be any rights-based reason that they couldn't do it...?
I believe Kinberg said that there are plans to cross X-Men over with this new FF, if everything works out.
Apocalypse will be the last we'll see of McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence and Hoult, but Fox has their new Cyclops, Jean and Storm actors. Plus a film based on the New Mutants. So, they had the potential to do something with both franchises.
Apocalypse will be the last we'll see of McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence and Hoult, but Fox has their new Cyclops, Jean and Storm actors. Plus a film based on the New Mutants. So, they had the potential to do something with both franchises.
Yes, that's exactly what we've already been discussing. My point was that if FF went the same route as Spidey -- the movie not working out, leading to Marvel taking over creative control and re-rebooting the FF as part of the MCU -- then it would probably scuttle those plans for an FF/X-Men crossover.
This FF, or the last one?
Thing vs. Colossus.
Sue and Jean bitching about how sick and bloody tied they are of their children being forcematurated, or become lost in time for decades between eyeblinks.
Pyro vs. the Torch vs Iceman.
Professor X and Reed germinating the Illuminati.
Dr. Doom vs Apocalypse.
Thing vs. Colossus.
Sue and Jean bitching about how sick and bloody tied they are of their children being forcematurated, or become lost in time for decades between eyeblinks.
Pyro vs. the Torch vs Iceman.
Professor X and Reed germinating the Illuminati.
Dr. Doom vs Apocalypse.
I've amused by the new TV ads with the dubstep* and attitude. So hip and cool!
* I'm sure someone will correct me that it's not technically dbbstep or whatever
* I'm sure someone will correct me that it's not technically dbbstep or whatever
I was going to disagree but then I realised you're basically right, at least on the big screen anyway.
For me, the thrill of The Avengers and the Batman v Superman trailers has been seeing these disparate heroes face off and team up; the iconic solo heroes sharing screen time as they put aside their differences and get used to working with others for a change.
However, I'm not sure that there's the same thrill with 2 ensemble casts teaming up. We already see Cyclops, Wolverine etc work as a team and we already see the FF work as a different team. So if the FF & X-Men teamed up, we'd just have ...a really big team. Cast members in the X-Men already struggle to get adequate screen time. Now they'd have to share that time with another 4 superbeings.
Added to which, as Guy hinted at in his own inimitable manner, none would really bring much new to the other's table. Each group has a member who can control heat/cold, a really strong one, a really intelligent one, one with telekinetic type powers.
Nothing that got me excited in the trailers thus far, nothing that has me discouraged. It looks like a lot of the other Marvel films, lots of mindless destruction and quips.
I'm sure I'll see it, I'm sure it'll be entertaining on some level and I'm sure I'll never see it a second time like the rest of Marvel's movies.
I'm sure I'll see it, I'm sure it'll be entertaining on some level and I'm sure I'll never see it a second time like the rest of Marvel's movies.
One of the coolest things they did between the FF and the X-Men was when Wolverine ripped open Ben Grims face with his adamantium claws. So the Thing went from an ugly hideous monster to an ugly disfigured hideous monster.
He wore a bucket on his head and got really bitter.
Later on, Wolverine tried to apologized.
It was almost exactly like Fonzie tying to say sorry.
He wore a bucket on his head and got really bitter.
Later on, Wolverine tried to apologized.
It was almost exactly like Fonzie tying to say sorry.
Singer has also said plans are afoot for the crossover:
http://screencrush.com/x-men-fantastic-four-crossover/
http://screencrush.com/x-men-fantastic-four-crossover/
