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Fantastic Four reboot-- Casting, Rumors, Pix, ect;

Christopher said:
Mr Light said:
There's no posted budget, but they picked a found footage director whose last film had a $12 million budget.
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That's needlessly dismissive of Josh Trank. Chronicle was a low-budget movie, but it was a very powerful, creative, and original take on the superhero premise. Admittedly I didn't like it as much on my second viewing as I did on the first, but there was some really impressive stuff there, and it showed that you don't need a bloated budget to make a visually or conceptually striking film.

I'm not convinced that Trank is a good fit for the Fantastic Four, mind you, but he should not be dismissed as some cheap hack.
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I could be wrong, but I took Mr. Light's comment to be less an attack on Trank's ability and more of an observation that he could successfully work on the cheap which, if Light is correct, would be consistent with the idea that Fox is trying to do a low budget movie just to hold the rights.
 
Christopher said:
As it happens, Doom is a real English surname, from a word meaning a hill or slope, and apparently a Dutch one too, either as a variant of Adam or from "de oom," meaning "the uncle." I found references to a Dutch Van Doom surname as well, but they might be typos for Van Doorn.

So it's entirely possible that "Von Doom" could be a Latverian surname. There's nothing intrinsically preposterous about it.
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"Guy named Otto Octavius winds up with eight limbs. What are the odds?"

Obviously, it's not just the name (which is rare and goofy enough as is to be notable); it's the name fitting the in-story supervillain so outrageously well and in such an on-the-nose way. No, it's not impossible, it's just coincidental to the point of eye-rolling silliness.

Raimi acknowledged Doc Ock's name silliness with a lampshading quip. The guys behind this movie had opted to modify their villain's name. Both tacks are legitimate.
 
<<I could be wrong, but I took Mr. Light's comment to be less an attack on Trank's ability and more of an observation that he could successfully work on the cheap which, if Light is correct, would be consistent with the idea that Fox is trying to do a low budget movie just to hold the rights. >>

Yeah, I liked Chronicle, I wasn't attacking the director, I was just saying they seem to be taking the cheap route.
 
But even if they are going the cheap route, at least they've chosen a director with proven skills, which contrasts with the assumption that it's just a throwaway to hold onto the rights.

And really, if it's a lame, forgettable film, surely that would make the rights less valuable to them and increase the odds that they'd lose them to Marvel Studios. If they're really concerned with holding onto the property, they should try their best to do it well. So if they are doing what you suggest, then they're probably acting against their own best interests.
 
Let's remember, Fox didn't exactly break the bank for X1, either. Nor did Lionsgate for the first Hunger Games.

Somehow, both franchises are now doing pretty okay...
 
Alidar Jarok said:
The whole of the Fantastic Four are ridiculous because Jack Kirby embraced the ridiculous. If you're afraid to embrace it, maybe it's the wrong source material to do a film adaptation of?
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Does anyone know Kirby or Lee's drug use in the sixties. Many of their creations from the period are decidedly "trippy", the Fantastic Four being no exception.

the G-man said:
As an aside, where did Victor get his PhD? If I recall correctly, he was expelled from college when his experiment went ka-bloom.
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He's one of those "all but dissertation" jackasses. :evil:

Servo said:
Skywalker said:
This thing is going to make the Tim Story movies look tolerable.
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Duncan MacLeod said:
Actually it's going to make the Tim Story movies look fucking brilliant!
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Hell, it'll probably make the Roger Corman one look pretty good too.
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Corman's was already the superior movie.

Gaith said:
Let's remember, Fox didn't exactly break the bank for X1, either. Nor did Lionsgate for the first Hunger Games.

Somehow, both franchises are now doing pretty okay...
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The changes to X-Men though were quite brilliant. They hired a talented creator that respected the characters and some excellent actors to bring those characters to life. They made it a plot driven movie rather than an effects driven one. Finally, they took a great "what if people with extraordinary powers existed in the real world" approach. The final effect was something more along the lines of a good James Bond style movie rather than a super-hero one.
 
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Christopher said:
But even if they are going the cheap route, at least they've chosen a director with proven skills, which contrasts with the assumption that it's just a throwaway to hold onto the rights.

And really, if it's a lame, forgettable film, surely that would make the rights less valuable to them and increase the odds that they'd lose them to Marvel Studios. If they're really concerned with holding onto the property, they should try their best to do it well. So if they are doing what you suggest, then they're probably acting against their own best interests.
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...or, they needed to get something made reasonably quick to keep the rights. They didn't know what they wanted to do and so they didn't want to spend a lot of money because the risk was too great. So they decided to do something cheap, hire a director with a proven track record of doing something with a low budget and hope for the best, on the theory they could up the budget and/or reboot later?
 
theenglish said:
The changes to X-Men though were quite brilliant. They hired a talented creator that respected the characters and some excellent actors to bring those characters to life. They made it a plot driven movie rather than an effects driven one. Finally, they took a great "what if people with ordinary powers existed in the real world" approach. The final effect was something more along the lines of a good James Bond style movie rather than a super-hero one.
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Exactly. I see no reason at all to assume something like that couldn't happen here.
 
Gaith said:
theenglish said:
The changes to X-Men though were quite brilliant. They hired a talented creator that respected the characters and some excellent actors to bring those characters to life. They made it a plot driven movie rather than an effects driven one. Finally, they took a great "what if people with ordinary powers existed in the real world" approach. The final effect was something more along the lines of a good James Bond style movie rather than a super-hero one.
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Exactly. I see no reason at all to assume something like that couldn't happen here.
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oops, I just changed my incorrect "ordinary" to extraordinary".
 
Alidar Jarok said:
The whole of the Fantastic Four are ridiculous because Jack Kirby embraced the ridiculous. If you're afraid to embrace it, maybe it's the wrong source material to do a film adaptation of?
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Bingo. This is why superhero movies and shows almost never interest me-- they always water down the concept to make it palatable to the mainstream audience. That's why the best Marvel movie ever made was The Incredibles and the best DC movie ever made was Megamind.
 
Gaith said:
theenglish said:
The changes to X-Men though were quite brilliant. They hired a talented creator that respected the characters and some excellent actors to bring those characters to life. They made it a plot driven movie rather than an effects driven one. Finally, they took a great "what if people with ordinary powers existed in the real world" approach. The final effect was something more along the lines of a good James Bond style movie rather than a super-hero one.
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Exactly. I see no reason at all to assume something like that couldn't happen here.
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I'm hoping this also. I haven't seen Chronicle but am aware that it got generally good reviews. I'm not familiar with Miles Teller but all of the other 4 as well as the actor playing Doom and the Storm's Dad are strong performers, IMHO.

Don't get me wrong, I would absolutely love a FF movie that embraced the outlandishness of the comic book (ideally a 1960s-set one). But for all the apparent deviation from the source material, I'm prepared to give this a chance.
 
Captaindemotion said:
I'm hoping this also. I haven't seen Chronicle but am aware that it got generally good reviews.
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I was aware of that as well...then I saw it and feel I saw a different movie. It's why I don't use RT as anything other than entertainment cause I don't see an 85% grade, sorry critics. I'm much more aligned with that 71% (C-) Audience score. Cause while I could find a few things to approve of overall I was unimpressed with it as a whole.
 
^Hard for me to comment without having seen it, though as an observation I'd note that you and I frequently (but not always) have similar tastes in films.
 
RJDiogenes said:
Alidar Jarok said:
The whole of the Fantastic Four are ridiculous because Jack Kirby embraced the ridiculous. If you're afraid to embrace it, maybe it's the wrong source material to do a film adaptation of?
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Bingo. This is why superhero movies and shows almost never interest me-- they always water down the concept to make it palatable to the mainstream audience. That's why the best Marvel movie ever made was The Incredibles and the best DC movie ever made was Megamind.
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:guffaw::guffaw: Is this guy for real?
 
theenglish said:
Corman's was already the superior movie.
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